what law enforcement job has the most action?

[claymoreman]

Hi im new here and i am considering becoming an FBI agent if i pass the polygraph test. i want to know, what law enforcement jobs see the most action and which jobs are you allowed to dress plainclothes and carry a firearm? because see the action is the juice. thank you in advance! :cool:

[500pearl]

You sound like a little kid in the candy store, not knowing which flavor to get. I would recommend you do a little research, starting with the term "1811" and www.911jobforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

[claymoreman]

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I'm sure the Bureau will LOVE you! ;)

lol sorry man im almost 18 and yes i am like a little brat in a candy store (refernce to the guy below) i just want to know what and where of what i want to do.

[claymoreman]

You sound like a little kid in the candy store, not knowing which flavor to get. I would recommend you do a little research, starting with the term "1811" and www.911jobforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

i cuoldnt find what 1811 is, thanks for the link. ill get on that right away.

[500pearl]

Almost 18? I would highly recommend attending college, getting a BA/BS degree, meanwhile keep your eyes and ears & actively seek any internships or co-op programs your school may have with law enforcement agencies. Don't let those summers go to waste.

[ChiTownDet]

Oh, what you want to get involved in is "Television Law Enforcement.":rolleyes:

[500pearl]

lol hahahah good one. In all seriousness, I firmly believe a college education is priority, don't get into too much trouble in college (ex. drugs, alcohol, girls, fights). You stated you did not know what 1811 is, in due time you will, believe me, in due time you will . . .

[audi0xpl0de]

Make sure to take some writing courses. That was painful. A huge part of law enforcement is paperwork, I hope you know that it is not 24/7 action.

[Gringe]

Hi im new here and i am considering becoming an FBI agent if i pass the polygraph test. i want to know, what law enforcement jobs see the most action and which jobs are you allowed to dress plainclothes and carry a firearm? because see the action is the juice. thank you in advance! :cool:

Got Juice?

http://www.liberalstreetfighter.com/ee/images/uploads/GotJuice.jpg

[Gringe]

It's like "Got Milk?"... only better. :cool:

Damn skippy. Had to change the image though, was way too big. :(

[RoadKingTrooper]

Any of the alphabet police should fill the bill for you then

[claymoreman]

Any of the alphabet police should fill the bill for you then

alphabet police? what does that mean?

[miked6]

Hi im new here and i am considering becoming an FBI agent if i pass the polygraph test. i want to know, what law enforcement jobs see the most action and which jobs are you allowed to dress plainclothes and carry a firearm? because see the action is the juice. thank you in advance! :cool:

Uniform patrol in a metro city. If you are looking for action, most are always hiring, pay pretty well, and are a lot of fun.

[RoadKingTrooper]

Sorry Clay, FBI, DEA, BATF,USS, DOJ, ect

[Sheepdog2009]

If you want action then join a large metropolitain police dept. and snag a beat in the inner city and enjoy.

[furrball409]

alphabet police? what does that mean?Federal Agencies; ICE, FBI, ATF, DEA, etc...

From what I hear, Border Patrol sees their fair share of "action" btw.

edit:RoadKingTrooper beat me to it.

[Gringe]

Actually, furrball hit it on the spot.

If you're almost 18, and have at least one year of public work experience, you can qualify for Border Patrol at GL-5 pay. They currently have Southwest, and Northern Border positions available. You can get a whole load of action with them.

Find out more at http://www.cbp.gov and http://www.usajobs.gov

[claymoreman]

Actually, furrball hit it on the spot.

If you're almost 18, and have at least one year of public work experience, you can qualify for Border Patrol at GL-5 pay. They currently have Southwest, and Northern Border positions available. You can get a whole load of action with them.

Find out more at http://www.cbp.gov and http://www.usajobs.gov

how do you get action with borderpatrol? dont you just stop and inspect cars?

[Gringe]

how do you get action with borderpatrol? dont you just stop and inspect cars?

Check out the links I provided, and visit http://www.honorfirst.com

If action is all you're looking for, you're in the wrong career field.

These sites may be of more use to you:

http://www.goarmy.com
http://www.marines.com
http://www.navy.com
http://www.airforce.com
http://www.gocoastguard.com

[furrball409]

how do you get action with borderpatrol? dont you just stop and inspect cars? That is one of the many things they can do, though I doubt it's the majority. From what I hear (former Border Patrol Agent in my CBP class) they get plenty of action. Chasing illegals, smuggler's and trafficker's coming across the border.

FAQ from the cbp website

http://cbp.gov/xp/cgov/careers/customs_careers/border_careers/bp_agent/faqs_working_for_the_usbp.xml

[mdrdep]

If your looking for action FBI isn't it. They are primarily investigators. What you would really want is enforcement.

[GB0610]

Kid, with all due respect, just sit around here and read for a while before you post anymore. Take some of what is said here in for a bit.

In the meantime, join the service, get a college degree, learn another language and KEEP YOU NOSE CLEAN. The rest will fall in line...

[INTHEAIRCOP]

Do not join Border Patrol cause if you shoot a bad guy in the butt they will send you to jail for 10 years.

If you want a gun, a badge, plain clothes and want no action at all then join the Federal Air Marshal Service. We are hirring now!

[500pearl]

no action at all? typo?

[claymoreman]

Kid, with all due respect, just sit around here and read for a while before you post anymore. Take some of what is said here in for a bit.

In the meantime, join the service, get a college degree, learn another language and KEEP YOU NOSE CLEAN. The rest will fall in line...

alright man sorry to get some of you kinda ****ed i know this question is inevitably going to get some eyes rolling but do Feds look for spanish speaking skills?

[500pearl]

I would say any foreign language skill is a valuable asset. It would better your chances of being hired, wouldn't hurt. As far as which languages are "hot" right now, *my personal opinion* would be 1) chinese for CI reasons 2) arabic/urdu/farsi/hindu for CT reasons.

[superninjap3]

Marine Infantry = Action

[superninjap3]

Plus then you can get that cool GI bill thingy to pay for your college :)

[claymoreman]

Plus then you can get that cool GI bill thingy to pay for your college :)

yeah i dont know i mean i love justice and want to put away "bad guys" and the whole respect and power thing is what i love and i would love to put drug dealers and mobsters away for life but i also want to just be somewhere that isnt a war zone cause i dont want my leg or arms or head off! lol plus i want to go to college.

[Up_On_Base]

no action at all? typo?

NO, he is serious 500pearl.
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To the OP - These kind of questions are insane, NO ONE can just "join" any agency. You need to pass all the requirements and still be a good fit for that agency.

Here is some advice, get your BA/BS, maybe join the military, and get some life experience. If you really want a ton of action, go to a city department like Baltimore, DC, LA, etc. You will see more "action/juice" pushing a patrol car compared to most federal gigs.

Not trying to be a jerk, I actually appreciate your attitude but its unrealistic. I see these "crystal ball" questions all the time on here, getting into LE is a crap shoot in many cases. It is not like any other profession when trying to get hired, there are so many factors. You could pass all the steps and never get final offer, you could not be the "right fit" for that agency.

Enjoy being young, go to college, meet a ton of girls, stay out of trouble, get drunk, work out, don't get locked up, no drugs, have lots of great memories, etc...live life strong...don't be a ******-bag...did I mention have fun.

Dude...do some of your own research on different agencies. Every agency has good websites...google is your friend.

Good luck

[Gringe]

yeah i dont know i mean i love justice and want to put away "bad guys" and the whole respect and power thing is what i love and i would love to put drug dealers and mobsters away for life but i also want to just be somewhere that isnt a war zone cause i dont want my leg or arms or head off! lol plus i want to go to college.

Please tell me you're joking! With an attitude and mind like that, you will never become a Police Officer, or even pass a psych exam. Stop posting, start reading and learning! If you want to become a Police Officer, it needs to be for the correct reasons!

If you want to have action, arrest people, and have "power", go join the military and become an MP. That will give you action, rank, and the ability to put bad soldiers away.

If you want to be a Fed, you need to go to college and major in a critical degree, and better yet, learn a critical needed language. Do your research!!!!!

[AzPilot]

and better yet, learn a critical needed language.

In this case, it may be advisable that he master the English language before moving on to other languages.

Seriously, you (the OP) have not done a good job of presenting yourself here. Envision capitalizing sentences, using punctuation, and not ending every other sentence with "lol." Further envision doing some research, and then asking quality, specific questions, as opposed to wading into an open forum, and asking that everyone provide you with very, very basic information, which is available at any one of a hundred sites on the internet.

You may not realize it, but you've casually "nominated yourself" for the more choice aspects of a career / calling for which people -literally- give blood, sweat, tears...and occasionally, their lives. You need not have a somber tone, but a little bit of respect is warranted.

If you think I'm being hard on you....enjoy your first day of training in a military or law enforcement setting.

"Language most shows a man: speak, that I may see thee." - Ben Jonson

[Gringe]

Join the National Guard. Have them put you through college, while you simultaneously earn military experience. It'll make you a much better applicant in this competitive field, and it'll gain you some serious life experience.

Don't expect anyone to be easy on you. You came on our forum and disrespected our career choices, by the way you speak of it. Bad first impression.

[SHU]

A local LE agency in a large inner city will give you more action than you can stand. As far as federal LE no other agency, state local or federal, arrests more people than the Patrol. Honorfirst. But from reading your post I think you should go to college and live life a bit before you consider any job in LE.
Good Luck

[claymoreman]

i know it sounds cliche but thank you all for your responses.

[wittynbear]

yeah i dont know i mean i love justice and want to put away "bad guys" and the whole respect and power thing is what i love and i would love to put drug dealers and mobsters away for life but i also want to just be somewhere that isnt a war zone cause i dont want my leg or arms or head off! lol plus i want to go to college.

First off many in the military go to college while in the military, plus its 100% paid for and you don't even have to touch your GI Bill. The military has MPs who put away bad guys, sometimes. NO ONE wants to get their leg or arms or head blown off, but its the same as LE, sometimes s--t happens. You are definately no safer putting away drug dealers and mobsters that you would be in the military. The military will force you to grow up a lot, I would recommend to everyone. If you want to put drug dealers and mobsters away for life then you need to be a prosecuting attorney. LE just puts them away, they sometimes get out, and sometimes get just a slap on the wrist for major crimes. If you want to make sure they go away for a long time become an attorney and apply to become a federal prosecutor.

[DevilDog24]

I agree with all the other posters when they say Military, college then LE. If I was to do it all again, I would have done 20 years in the USMC, then move on to a federal LE job for another 20. I went in the Corps when I was 18 and if I retired after 20 years, I would have been 38, still young enough to hook up with an agency and do another 20. When all is said and done, I would be 58, collecting 2 pensions and enjoying my free time. Just my opinion.

[madchiken]

He said FBI and action in the same post....:D:eek::D

[Gringe]

He said FBI and action in the same post....:D:eek::D

He does stand-up comedy!

No wait, nvm.. I found him.

http://shivand1.myweb.uga.edu/me.JPG

[England]

If action is what you seek, then go see your local Army recruiter. PLENTY of action in Afghanistan. Trust me on that. Lots of bad guys, you'll love it.

[Up_On_Base]

I agree with all the other posters when they say Military, college then LE. If I was to do it all again, I would have done 20 years in the USMC, then move on to a federal LE job for another 20. I went in the Corps when I was 18 and if I retired after 20 years, I would have been 38, still young enough to hook up with an agency and do another 20. When all is said and done, I would be 58, collecting 2 pensions and enjoying my free time. Just my opinion.

Not to be a pain, you would have been over the 37 cut off age for most federal agencies...but I know what you are saying and I agree

[claymoreman]

He said FBI and action in the same post....:D:eek::D

dont get my hopes down :( tell me they get atleast some action! :p

[DevilDog24]

Not to be a pain, you would have been over the 37 cut off age for most federal agencies...but I know what you are saying and I agree

It is my understanding that if you served in the armed forces, military time can be subtracted. Maybe not in all agencies. I know of a Gunny that retired after 20 years and just started in the UD.

[superninjap3]

dont get my hopes down :( tell me they get atleast some action! :p


You can apply for the FBI for the next 20 years, but it wont do you any good unless you have a "critical" college degree. So keep your hopes up, you have plenty of time to figure out were the action is why your in school. :D

[Ali G]

if you want some serious action, and to go some place where they will transform you from the clown you likely are now, into a man who has a good chance of getting hired as an 1811, i'd recommend going into the Marine Corp. you'll get plenty of action there, and when you come out, you wont be saying ridiculous crap like "the action is the juice". if your motivation to become a law enforcement officer stems from the fact that you will have power over other people, and you think that will give you respect, then you have no business in law enforcement. you shouldn't need to go to depend on other people's feelings toward you to prove to yourself that you are worthy of respect. I recommend you read Ralph Waldo Emerson's essay "Self Reliance", that will teach you the proper attitude to take.

Wow! C'mon, give the kid a break. He is still "starry eyed." I think we all had the same misconceptions based on watching too many movies back when we were kids. Of course, most of us would not have dared to utter the words, "The action is the juice" or (one of my personal favorites) "I love justice." The only difference between this kid and us is 15 or 20 years of experience, immediate access to hundreds of misleading cop movies, and a lack of understanding that the majority of that stuff is BS.

For me, "the action" makes me pick apart everything I did wrong and thank God that the other person didn't take advantage of whatever tactical flaw I identified during my mental review. So honestly, "the action" is kind of a pain in my A##.

[500pearl]

Regardless if you want to apply for the FBI or not, the FBI has a list of critical skills that come in handy and would of great value to you. Take a look at the list and set forth to obtaining one or two of the skills. Since you will be attending college soon, working your way up to 300 or even 400 level language courses would be convenient. As far as which language to learn, read my prior post for my opinion, watch the news, be weary of the international politics and state of affairs.
For detailed explanations of critical skills refer to:
http://www.fbijobs.gov/1112.asp

[Ali G]

dont get my hopes down :( tell me they get atleast some action! :p

Claymore,

This is serious advice. I'm not going to make fun of you right now.

1. Be a good person. Don't lie or steal. Be loyal to your friends and be a good employee. This has two benefits: You won't be thought of as a dirtbag AND you will be able to fill out a background investigation form without having to remember who you ****ed off or owe money to or cheated with their girlfriend. Don't be dirtbag. Stay off the damn drugs. If you have already experimented, don't do it again.

2. Finish college, go in the military or preferably BOTH.

3. Talk to as many different cops as you can and ASK them what they like and don't like about the job. Try to find out what it really is that they do.

**Do not TELL them anything about what you think about law enforcement or they will laugh at you and mess with you. Everything you know about being a cop came from movies. Try to learn stuff from actual cops. Go on ride alongs. Talk to your high school police officers. Seriously try to understand the ups and downs of being a cop. I can tell you that there is no cop that likes his/her job solely for the action. They like the feeling of making a difference and they like being "the good guy." Sure, they probably like a little action now and then, but that equates to about 1% of the job.

If all this stuff seems like too much, then you probably don't have the level of commitment necessary to be law enforcement. If so, maybe come back and revisit it in a few years. I know that seems like a long time, but trust me, it won't seem like that long as the years go by. You won't be a real contender for an LE job until you are 22 or so anyway.

Seriously evaluate your goals here. If you want to beat people up or get in shoot outs, you are going to be a bad cop. But, you would probably be an awesome Marine. If you don't want to be a Marine, then you probably don't like the action as much as you think you do.

[Up_On_Base]

It is my understanding that if you served in the armed forces, military time can be subtracted. Maybe not in all agencies. I know of a Gunny that retired after 20 years and just started in the UD.

UD like Border Patrol hires to age 40...they are the exception. That is fairly new, I know when I was UD you had to be under 37.

I am not sure if that will allow you to then transfer to another "covered" position like FBI/USSS-SA/etc...I don't think.

[Another JD]

Just FYI, "the action is the juice" is a quote from the Michael Mann movie "Heat."

[davidh304]

Join CTU.

Of course, CTU is unlisted. So, the first step to joining CTU is FINDING CTU. Also you absolutely, positively, need tactical pants. And tactical gear.



In fact I would buy anything with Tactical in it's name.

[HiPhiGuy35]

If you want action then join a large metropolitain police dept. and snag a beat in the inner city and enjoy.

Yeah there's definately action! It is good while you're young but get tired after 10 years, just becomes the same ol same ol. I would recommend college then local, after that if you will know which direction you wanna go, and if you wanna go in to the alphabets after that then you have the resume to do it. Plus if you go straight into the feds you can wait up to 3 or more years to get the job and not even like law enforcement in general. Local is much quicker once in the hiring process and you get thrown into the mix alot faster too! Not to mention the experience gained...large metro police that is! good luck

[sap123]

because see the action is the juice. thank you in advance! :cool:

Stop passing that off like those are your own words. That movie was awesome, but don't kid yourself if you thought no one else would pick up on it.

[jimdvs]

It is my understanding that if you served in the armed forces, military time can be subtracted. Maybe not in all agencies. I know of a Gunny that retired after 20 years and just started in the UD.

No, a person's military time cannot be subtracted to get them under the 37 or 40 age retirement cutoff. Your friend must have been hired by the UD because he was younger than age 40, which is currently the maximum age requirement for UD. Last year the USSS made the determination to extend the maximum age requirement for the Uniformed Division to age 40. What you are alluding to is if a current federal employee that is covered under the same 6c CSRS/12d FERS retirement then they can transfer to another agency regardless of age. Another way a person can get hired past the maximum age is if they are a prior federal employee and over the age of 37 or 40 (depending on what agency they are trying to get hired by) and the former employee was covered under the 6c/12d retirement then they can subtract the amount of time they were previously employed from their age and if that number is less than the maximum age they are eligible for hire. An example is if a former USPP officer worked there for 6 years and separated from the government and now wants to work for another federal LE position, they would subtract the 6 years from his current age. So say he is now 42 and wants to work for ATF as an SA they would take his age (42) subtract his USPP time (6 years) and come up with age 36 which would make him eligible for hire because he is below the 37 cutoff ATF requires. There are some caveats to this rule though so it is best if someone is in this situation to check with the agency recruiter before getting too excited. Again, this is only for people that were under the 6c/12d retirement coverage and does not include military personnel because military personnel are not covered under the 6c/12d retirement.

[GreenLine]

I agree with the poster who said that the OP should look for a local patrol position, because that is far more "action"-oriented than being a federal criminal investigator/1811, IMO.

Other than a very few specialized 1811 positions (HRT or similar. USMS warrant guys), most 1811's will have about 3% "action" versus 97% report writing, interviewing, moving paper from one side of the desk to another.

If you enjoy the analytical nature of conducting criminal investigations and the problem-solving aspects of it, you can certainly "put people away", but the reality is not what you see on TV, where it takes 45 minutes of casework followed by 15 minutes of doorkicking and gunfighting to "get" the bad guy. It can take YEARS of documenting, interviewing, and evidence-gathering, followed by about 30 seconds of "action" when you arrest the person, if you arrest them at all.

I agree - do more reading and understanding than asking, at this point. Focus on keeping your nose clean and getting a good education. This will help you in ANY profession, should you change your mind and decide to do something else.

[Code Seven]

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[Code Seven]

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[Charliefoxtrot]

Claymore,

I'm a Border Patrol Agent, and have been in law enforcement for over 10 years. (And a member of this forum for 1 day) I can say that you came to the right place to ask your questions. I've read the responses to your initial question, and couldn't agree more. You are getting some great advice from these guys.

First of all, you're only 18. That's not a cheap shot at your age, but you're still young. You have plenty of time, so listen to the advice the guys on this forum give you. 500pearl and GB0610 recommended going to college and joining the Service. NOTHING can prepare you more for the real world than a good education. Service in the military will not only add to that education, but it will prepare you not only for the physical demands of a career in law enforcement, but will teach you discipline as well.

audi0xpl0de made another great point: take writing courses. In law enforcement, you are defined by your writing skills. You may make a great arrest, but if you cannot articulate it in a written report, your credibility is shot.

You asked about a job with a lot of action. That concerns me a little. Not that you want a job in law enforcement that has a lot of action. But, that you may not understand what comes with that. Furrball409 is right. There is A LOT of action in the Border Patrol, and I can say that from experience. I will never talk down any other agency or department, but I have seen my share of action.

I have been in more foot and vehicle pursuits than I can count. I have been assaulted and shot at. I have arrested not only illegal aliens, but U.S. citizens as well. I've arrested smugglers, child molesters, rapists, and other wanted felons. I've stopped drunk drivers, and have assisted in domestic violence calls. I've been the first responder to many vehicle accidents, some of which included fatalities. I've recovered more dead bodies in the desert than I care to remember, and have watched people die in front of me.

I'm not trying to glamorize my job, nor am I trying to shock you. This is the reality of my job.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to have a job with a lot of action. I have to admit, I thrive on it. The action gets your adrenaline going. It can be like a roller coaster ride. But, it's a "double-edged" sword. You also have to deal with the negative things that I mentioned. It can be ugly.

It sounds like you're on the right track. Keep researching, get an education, and ALWAYS listen to those who have experience. This forum is a great source of information. You wanna be a cop? You came to the right place.

To answer your question about speaking Spanish, the Border Patrol is the only federal agency where that is a requirement. You don't have to know it before you enter the academy. They will teach you what you need to know.

Good luck, Claymore. Remember, there are no dumb questions. Whatever question you ask, I'm sure that there is someone on this forum who will have an answer for you. I know I still could learn a thing or two from these guys.

[Code Seven]

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[Ares1975]

i want to know, what law enforcement jobs see the most action... because see the action is the juice. thank you in advance!

If you don't mind a somewhat corrupt sheriff, bumbling deputies, chasing moonshiners, and girls in jean cut-offs check out this sheriff department:

http://hcsd.net/

[TigerWoody]

Very Well Said....


Claymore,

I'm a Border Patrol Agent, and have been in law enforcement for over 10 years. (And a member of this forum for 1 day) I can say that you came to the right place to ask your questions. I've read the responses to your initial question, and couldn't agree more. You are getting some great advice from these guys.

First of all, you're only 18. That's not a cheap shot at your age, but you're still young. You have plenty of time, so listen to the advice the guys on this forum give you. 500pearl and GB0610 recommended going to college and joining the Service. NOTHING can prepare you more for the real world than a good education. Service in the military will not only add to that education, but it will prepare you not only for the physical demands of a career in law enforcement, but will teach you discipline as well.

audi0xpl0de made another great point: take writing courses. In law enforcement, you are defined by your writing skills. You may make a great arrest, but if you cannot articulate it in a written report, your credibility is shot.

You asked about a job with a lot of action. That concerns me a little. Not that you want a job in law enforcement that has a lot of action. But, that you may not understand what comes with that. Furrball409 is right. There is A LOT of action in the Border Patrol, and I can say that from experience. I will never talk down any other agency or department, but I have seen my share of action.

I have been in more foot and vehicle pursuits than I can count. I have been assaulted and shot at. I have arrested not only illegal aliens, but U.S. citizens as well. I've arrested smugglers, child molesters, rapists, and other wanted felons. I've stopped drunk drivers, and have assisted in domestic violence calls. I've been the first responder to many vehicle accidents, some of which included fatalities. I've recovered more dead bodies in the desert than I care to remember, and have watched people die in front of me.

I'm not trying to glamorize my job, nor am I trying to shock you. This is the reality of my job.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to have a job with a lot of action. I have to admit, I thrive on it. The action gets your adrenaline going. It can be like a roller coaster ride. But, it's a "double-edged" sword. You also have to deal with the negative things that I mentioned. It can be ugly.

It sounds like you're on the right track. Keep researching, get an education, and ALWAYS listen to those who have experience. This forum is a great source of information. You wanna be a cop? You came to the right place.

To answer your question about speaking Spanish, the Border Patrol is the only federal agency where that is a requirement. You don't have to know it before you enter the academy. They will teach you what you need to know.

Good luck, Claymore. Remember, there are no dumb questions. Whatever question you ask, I'm sure that there is someone on this forum who will have an answer for you. I know I still could learn a thing or two from these guys.