U.S. Marshals DEO....

[jeepsrt8]

Does any one know about this job? I applied to the Brooklyn office...........

[LS1]

It's a jailer job. Your duties are transporting prisoners to and from courthouses, jails, police stations, prisons, ICE and BOP facilities. You also provide some courtroom security. So basically, you're a deputy jailer and bailiff in one. It's GL-5/6/7 and covered under 6c/12d retirement. Some DEOs have gone on to become DUSMs, but it's NOT a guaranteed promotion. Weekends/holidays off, too, but no overtime. 3 weeks in Glynco for training.

[AWarr]

What does DEO?

[LS1]

What does DEO?

Detention Enforcement Officer.

[GuyinCali]

One of my co-workers just got a his EOD. He got hired as an 1811. He was hired under the new program that USMS hired as 1811. sweet...

[USMS08610083]

Actually, now you go through the entire training but don't become an 1811 until around your 4 year mark.

[GB0610]

Actually, now you go through the entire training but don't become an 1811 until around your 4 year mark.

You are right.

But for the original poster, realize that being a Deputy US Marshal (either 082 series or 1811) is different than being a DEO. They are two totally separate processes. Don't get them confused.

DEO are kind of the bastard step children of the USMS. My current boss was a AEO/DEO. I just want you to know what you are getting into.

[Pexxy]

Had my phone interview today, hard to be optimistic about it. It lasted about 10 minutes and really only wanted to hear about my hobbies and how I felt about a job that wasnt too demanding and could be slow alot of the time.

Im still confused as to this being a GS or a GL job. The USAJOBS announcement has it listed as a GL posting, but today I was informed that it was indeed a GS-07 job by my interviewer who was the chief of that particular regional office.

Anyone have any confirmation as to what the pay is?

[FEDPSO]

Had my phone interview today, hard to be optimistic about it. It lasted about 10 minutes and really only wanted to hear about my hobbies and how I felt about a job that wasnt too demanding and could be slow alot of the time.

Im still confused as to this being a GS or a GL job. The USAJOBS announcement has it listed as a GL posting, but today I was informed that it was indeed a GS-07 job by my interviewer who was the chief of that particular regional office.

Anyone have any confirmation as to what the pay is?

When did you apply for this opening and where? I appled for the DEO position at DC Superior Court back in November, and I have heard nothing. The pay scale should be on GL, and to be clear about the pay try contacting HR.

[timtim]

Had my phone interview today, hard to be optimistic about it. It lasted about 10 minutes and really only wanted to hear about my hobbies and how I felt about a job that wasnt too demanding and could be slow alot of the time.

Im still confused as to this being a GS or a GL job. The USAJOBS announcement has it listed as a GL posting, but today I was informed that it was indeed a GS-07 job by my interviewer who was the chief of that particular regional office.

Anyone have any confirmation as to what the pay is?

USMS-1802-Detention Enforcement Officer
Typicly hired at the GS 5/6/7 under opm LEO Pay Table
Leo Retirement

D.C. Has Supervisory DEOs' as well (GS-9) Positions.

After being hired the usual announcement says 3-4 weeks in Glynco. However, The training may not be attended for some time. You may begin the job immediatly working under suoervision of other 1802s',082s' or 1811s'.

USMS086 mentioned attending all the training but that might be when you promote to 082. While a DEO the Agency opens announcments to USMS Employess only at the 082 for 1802s' to promote.

After being promoted there is no gurantee you will stay at the office you work. Many DEOs' had to relocate when offered a promotion. Also, keep in mind that the backgrounds requirment is different. Several DEOs' are still DEOs' for their career. WHY? They have background issues which denies thier promotion.

[KIDFIRE79]

Does any one know about this job? I applied to the Brooklyn office...........

The job is one of very few ways you will be able to get into the US Marshals Office at this time. Despite that fact it is never a guarantee. It definitely gives you a huge advantage on attaining an 082/1811 position with the US Marshals.

The job consists of booking and transporting prisoners, executing extraditions, issuing out writs, serving process, issuing out bonds, court security, cell block management, JPATS and utilizing systems as JDIS, NCIC, PACER, etc. It is in no way shape or form anything like working inside a jail or performing jailer functions. They are commissioned Federal Law Enforcement Officers and are authorized to carry firearms on and off duty.

The problem that they have is that the program is funded directly through district. Which means that money is limited. So they accomplish this by hiring once year during the end of the fiscal year. Around late September early October. Training is very basic which consists of Cell block management and operations, Taser X26, Firearms, self defense, chemical munitions, driving etc. Most of your training will be on the job.

Your job will be directly dictated by your district, Chief and US Marshal. The larger districts allow you to do more as serve process, extraditions etc. You have to be proactive and eager to learn as this is a sink or swim agency. Which could be a good thing or bad one. Most of the DEO's I see not make a transition have weight issues or cannot pass the FIT test. The same problem is for alot of the 082's that cannot convert to an 1811.

It only took me a few months before I could put in my paperwork and now am gearing to go to (CITP). As for the background I have yet to see a DEO not become an 082 for issues on their background. They usually won't hire you as the background is done first before hire. I however could only speak for myself. In fact I felt my background for the DEO position more strict then that of the 1811. The only difference was 3 years more. Which qualified me for a Secret.

If you have any more questions feel free to PM me. Hope this helps.

Good luck

[KIDFIRE79]

USMS-1802-Detention Enforcement Officer
Typicly hired at the GS 5/6/7 under opm LEO Pay Table
Leo Retirement

D.C. Has Supervisory DEOs' as well (GS-9) Positions.

After being hired the usual announcement says 3-4 weeks in Glynco. However, The training may not be attended for some time. You may begin the job immediatly working under suoervision of other 1802s',082s' or 1811s'.

USMS086 mentioned attending all the training but that might be when you promote to 082. While a DEO the Agency opens announcments to USMS Employess only at the 082 for 1802s' to promote.

After being promoted there is no gurantee you will stay at the office you work. Many DEOs' had to relocate when offered a promotion. Also, keep in mind that the backgrounds requirment is different. Several DEOs' are still DEOs' for their career. WHY? They have background issues which denies thier promotion.


When promoted to 082 you have to attend the CITP program first. :confused: Then you attend 082 school which lasts for about 5 weeks. :confused:

I know it makes no sense :confused:

[hellhammer]

Where was the annoucement for NYC?

[jeepsrt8]

I'm a Gs-7/3 already with the BOP, I have several friends in the USMS that said i should apply to become a DEO to get my foot in the door with the Marshals service(I plained to get out of the BOP after a few years from day one). They said its just about the same thing im doing in shu, and medical trips to the local hospital. I live about 70 miles way from NYC, I figured i would have to take the train into the city, then subway!!! What do other DEO's or DM's do for transportation? I found out thiers 3 shifts 7am-3pm , 9am-5pm , and 11am-7pm. What different duties do the shifts do?

[KIDFIRE79]

I'm a Gs-7/3 already with the BOP, I have several friends in the USMS that said i should apply to become a DEO to get my foot in the door with the Marshals service(I plained to get out of the BOP after a few years from day one). They said its just about the same thing im doing in shu, and medical trips to the local hospital. I live about 70 miles way from NYC, I figured i would have to take the train into the city, then subway!!! What do other DEO's or DM's do for transportation? I found out thiers 3 shifts 7am-3pm , 9am-5pm , and 11am-7pm. What different duties do the shifts do?


I used to work for the BOP as well and one thing I could definitely tell you is that it is no way even remotely close to the FBOP.

The Marshals Service does not work midnights. So who ever told you they had 3 shifts was wrong. They also get holidays off as well.

Transportation is paid for unless you select to park on their lot. Which means they will give you an assigned parking space.

They do not house inmates, we are not a Corrections agency. We contract them out with the neighboring County Sheriffs office. We do hold inmates for courtesy holds while they await to appear to their initial when arrested by other agencies like the FBI. When they get remanded to our custody we assign them to a facility. The Sheriff is responsible for bringing and taking back the prisoners. If they get sick we will assign a contract Guard service to sit on them.

I did everything you could think of with the FBOP. SIS, SORT, DCT etc. What I learned was that the US Marshals worst assignment was better than the FBOP's best assignment.

[Pexxy]

When did you apply for this opening and where? I appled for the DEO position at DC Superior Court back in November, and I have heard nothing. The pay scale should be on GL, and to be clear about the pay try contacting HR.

I applied for the Memphis job about a month or so ago, its been a pretty quick paced process so far.

USMS-1802-Detention Enforcement Officer
Typicly hired at the GS 5/6/7 under opm LEO Pay Table
Leo Retirement

D.C. Has Supervisory DEOs' as well (GS-9) Positions.

After being hired the usual announcement says 3-4 weeks in Glynco. However, The training may not be attended for some time. You may begin the job immediatly working under suoervision of other 1802s',082s' or 1811s'.



I was told that I would be going soon after I arrived to Memphis if I was offered the position.


The Marshals Service does not work midnights. So who ever told you they had 3 shifts was wrong. They also get holidays off as well.

x2

I was also told that alot of weekends and all holidays were off as well. Pretty much when the court works, you work.


Also TimTim,..
Do you know why (if it is indeed a GS07 job), it has GL07 pay on USAJOBS?

I have an email from the lady who has been helping me through the hiring process (requesting forums, setting up the interview time) who first said it was a GS job, then later emailed me again and said it was indeed a GL.

[GCJailer]

Hello everyone. How much experience is needed for this position? I am currently working for a Sheriff's Office in the jail. Would county jail experience be enough for a DEO position with the USMS? Or do they prefer federal BOP experience? I work in a large jail, which has given me plenty of experience in dealing with inmates, and court procedure. Does anybody know of anyone being hired with county jail experience??

[KIDFIRE79]

I applied for the Memphis job about a month or so ago, its been a pretty quick paced process so far.



I was told that I would be going soon after I arrived to Memphis if I was offered the position.


x2

I was also told that alot of weekends and all holidays were off as well. Pretty much when the court works, you work.


Also TimTim,..
Do you know why (if it is indeed a GS07 job), it has GL07 pay on USAJOBS?

I have an email from the lady who has been helping me through the hiring process (requesting forums, setting up the interview time) who first said it was a GS job, then later emailed me again and said it was indeed a GL.

Actually all LEO jobs fall under the GL scale until they pass Grade 9 which all revert back to the GS scale.

[KIDFIRE79]

Hello everyone. How much experience is needed for this position? I am currently working for a Sheriff's Office in the jail. Would county jail experience be enough for a DEO position with the USMS? Or do they prefer federal BOP experience? I work in a large jail, which has given me plenty of experience in dealing with inmates, and court procedure. Does anybody know of anyone being hired with county jail experience??


That would depend on the district your applying for and whether you could rate high enough to attain an interview. Everyone has different backgrounds and not all come from FBOP.

My partner who currently serves as a Jail inspector for the Marshals came from a large County Jail.

[USMS08610083]

The 3 shifts you mentioned in NYC is correct. There are multiple shifts in some districts. As far assigned a parking spot, don't bet on it in NYC. But if you do drive in, you might be able to park there.

A DEO is primarily cellblock operations and prisoner transport. However, it is a foot in the door and makes it easier to promote from the inside. And although it is rare, I have seen DEO's not be able to promote because of background issues.

[Pexxy]

Actually all LEO jobs fall under the GL scale until they pass Grade 9 which all revert back to the GS scale.

Thank you, I did not know that,.

[USMS08610083]

Actually the 3 shifts I was talking about is the Manhattan office. I am not sure if Brooklyn has the same set up.

[KIDFIRE79]

The 3 shifts you mentioned in NYC is correct. There are multiple shifts in some districts. As far assigned a parking spot, don't bet on it in NYC. But if you do drive in, you might be able to park there.

A DEO is primarily cellblock operations and prisoner transport. However, it is a foot in the door and makes it easier to promote from the inside. And although it is rare, I have seen DEO's not be able to promote because of background issues.

NYC has 3 shifts, thats odd. I do not see a need for midnights when when inmates are sent to their assigned facilities after court.

Usually once they go to their Status, Initial, Suppression, trial etc. They are done for the day. If the AUSA needs them to appear in court we just order them up, update PTS and fax the orders to the neighboring County Jails including FBOP in which they are housed in.

I just returned from Jail Inspector school and spoke with numerous DEO's and Deputies. I have yet to see a district that work midnights.

That would make NYC the only district I am aware of that has midnights.

[hellhammer]

When was the cutoff for the NYC announcement?

[USMS08610083]

No one said the three shifts included midnights but what jeepsrt8 alluded to earlier. The 3 shifts are 7am-3:30pm , 9am-5:30pm , and 11am-7:30pm.

[KIDFIRE79]

Miss read the post. I stand corrected.

[USMS08610083]

No problem.

[jeepsrt8]

Hello everyone, I got a 15 month old with a double ear infection, its been a crazy day. As for the shifts,i was told from a DC Marshal and my friend whos been a Marshal for about a year in Mich. Kidfire79 did you keep ur pay as a Gs-7 (don't know ur step), or was it less? With my step and coast of living increase to a 7-step 3 in CT, its about $51,xxx not bad.... The job opening was only a week long (1/2/09 to 1/12/09 on usajobs)

[KIDFIRE79]

Hello everyone, I got a 15 month old with a double ear infection, its been a crazy day. As for the shifts,i was told from a DC Marshal and my friend whos been a Marshal for about a year in Mich. Kidfire79 did you keep ur pay as a Gs-7 (don't know ur step), or was it less? With my step and coast of living increase to a 7-step 3 in CT, its about $51,xxx not bad.... The job opening was only a week long (1/2/09 to 1/12/09 on usajobs)

Yes I did. I was a Grade 9 step 5 and they just matched my pay to a 7 step 10. Which gave me a 200 dollar raise. Go figure :p

Yes they will definitely match your pay if your with the big G.

Good luck

[sei2105]

Hey guys...all this DEO talk is making me wonder about my offer letter. I was given a temporary offer of employment that says "Deputy US Marshal", passed my FIT test, physical, drug test, and of course the interview and initial test. (I live in the DC metro area.)
I was then offered the Jan 29th 2009 deputy school. Would I be going in as a DEO or a Marshal? How can I find that out? FYI...my HR person is about as friendly, and helpful, as a rattlesnake.
I have spoken with other current Marshals, and nobody has mentioned DEO before.
Second question...anyone have an idea when the next deputy school is being offered? Is there a schedule?

[GB0610]

Only you know what positioned you applied for...

How did you apply? Was it through the Shining Star Program. Was it through the SCEP program or college hire? Or, did you apply for a specific office for a DEO position?

[timtim]

Hey guys...all this DEO talk is making me wonder about my offer letter. I was given a temporary offer of employment that says "Deputy US Marshal", passed my FIT test, physical, drug test, and of course the interview and initial test. (I live in the DC metro area.)
I was then offered the Jan 29th 2009 deputy school. Would I be going in as a DEO or a Marshal? How can I find that out? FYI...my HR person is about as friendly, and helpful, as a rattlesnake.
I have spoken with other current Marshals, and nobody has mentioned DEO before.
Second question...anyone have an idea when the next deputy school is being offered? Is there a schedule?


Are you serious?

[Agent A-Hop]

are there any u.s deputy marshals on this thread? if so can you pm me? thnkz

[manstown]

Hey guys...all this DEO talk is making me wonder about my offer letter. I was given a temporary offer of employment that says "Deputy US Marshal", passed my FIT test, physical, drug test, and of course the interview and initial test. (I live in the DC metro area.)
I was then offered the Jan 29th 2009 deputy school. Would I be going in as a DEO or a Marshal? How can I find that out? FYI...my HR person is about as friendly, and helpful, as a rattlesnake.
I have spoken with other current Marshals, and nobody has mentioned DEO before.
Second question...anyone have an idea when the next deputy school is being offered? Is there a schedule?

There's a Deputy class starting the 29th. Now I don't know about a DEO class starting. Might want to figure this one out given the class starts tomorrow. If it says Deputy US Marshal on the offer, it's for just that. If it says Detention Enforcement Officer, it's for that. But I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's an offer for the Deputy class. Not to be a dick, but what position did you apply for? That should be a clue.

[jeepsrt8]

its been 3 weeks with no e-mail or call! how long does it normally take????

[ask80]

just a heads up, a new CITP class of 48 USMS just started this week, i'm assuming it's deputies USMS.

[KIDFIRE79]

Actually they have a CITP and a Basic class going on right now. DEO's go to the Academy once a year

[tua]

[QUOTE=sei2105;1622153]Hey guys...all this DEO talk is making me wonder about my offer letter. I was given a temporary offer of employment that says "Deputy US Marshal", passed my FIT test, physical, drug test, and of course the interview and initial test. (I live in the DC metro area.)
I was then offered the Jan 29th 2009 deputy school. Would I be going in as a DEO or a Marshal? How can I find that out? FYI...my HR person is about as friendly, and helpful, as a rattlesnake.
I have spoken with other current Marshals, and nobody has mentioned DEO before.
Second question...anyone have an idea when the next deputy school is being offered? Is there a schedule?[/QUOTE}

How are not sure of what job you applied for? I hope you know what career you are getting into.

[KIDFIRE79]

You could look up the US Marshals website and find the local recruiters office number and contact them.

Usually the larger districts have them like DC, Chicago, New York etc.

I have however noticed a few in the smaller districts as well.

[nystomind]

Whats up guys? This is my 1st post on this forum. I recently applied to a DEO position. I am currently a Federal Police Officer with the VA, however my goal is to join the USMS or ICE. My main reason for applying to the DEO position is to move up the ladder and ultimately become an 1811. How common is that and is that road realistic? I'm happy where I'm at, but I want to progress to another agency. Any replies would be appreciated

[GB0610]

Whats up guys? This is my 1st post on this forum. I recently applied to a DEO position. I am currently a Federal Police Officer with the VA, however my goal is to join the USMS or ICE. My main reason for applying to the DEO position is to move up the ladder and ultimately become an 1811. How common is that and is that road realistic? I'm happy where I'm at, but I want to progress to another agency. Any replies would be appreciated
Welcome.

Do a search. You will see numerous posts about the probability of progressing from a DEO (082) to an 1802 Deputy.

Good luck...

[shoto37]

Nystomind, not to knock your goals but you might have a hard time getting a DEO position with the marshals. They usually want people with a correctional background and are very selective. Like you, i am a former VA police officer with a correctional background with the Bureau of Prisons and a police background with ICE Federal Protective Service out of New York, and i have a hard time getting a DEO position. I can tell you for sure that with the VA background alone will be very difficult because they have very limited LE powers, practically none and have a bad reputation in the gov. fOX5ny.com had a special on tuesday the 17th about the VA police limited powers and training, look it up. Also, be on the look out for positions with FPS. There are suppose to recruit 1500 new Inspectors nationwide around March.

Good luck.

[nystomind]

Shooto thanks for the reply,I am currently a VA Police Officer, but I do have a extensive LEO background prior to the VA. I saw the Fox5 report also. The VA I'm at is alot different than most around the Country we actually have a lot of support from the Director and the Chief. I have nothing but praise for the VA Police, it is changing alot from when I first hired on. Alot of the "old" Officers are leaving and being replaced by newer motivated ones who actually care about the Veterans and their jobs. I'm not interested at all in FPS, here in Texas they actually seem more like every other Fed agencies flunkies. I'll see how this hiring process goes and hopefully I'll reach my goals.

GB0610 thanks for the info also

[shoto37]

nystomind-your right, it is changing NY was horrible and still is, Texas, LA, CHI always had good gigs. sorry if i came out aggressive and it is unfortunate for FPS, they are flunkies. They just dont know what they want to be considered police officers or inspectors..........unbelievable

[manstown]

Welcome.

Do a search. You will see numerous posts about the probability of progressing from a DEO (082) to an 1802 Deputy.

Good luck...
If you do a search don't use 1802. DUSM's are 082's or 0082's. Not sure if USMS has 1802's. Going the DEO route is a good way to get into an 082 slot, but certainly not a given. And getting 1811 with USMS will take you quite a few years. Even if you go in under FCIP it will take you at least 4 years (although there is some contraversy right now with that). Tack that on to your time as a DEO, if you get a Deputy slot, you're looking at about 6-8 years. USMS does take laterals for 1811, but these days that is far and few. DEO is a good way to get your foot in the door, but definitely not a sure fire way to get into a Deputy slot.

[USMS08610083]

DEO's are 1802's. DEO is not a guarantee to become a DUSM, however, a majority of the DEO's I have known have been promoted.

[GB0610]

Ah, sorry, had my series #'s flipped around this time...

[manstown]

DEO's are 1802's. DEO is not a guarantee to become a DUSM, however, a majority of the DEO's I have known have been promoted.

It can also give you a decent opportunity for the internal vacancies.

[USMS08610083]

That is correct. That is how the DEO's promote through the internal merit promotion.

[KIDFIRE79]

DEO's are 1802's. DEO is not a guarantee to become a DUSM, however, a majority of the DEO's I have known have been promoted.


I can attest to that........;):D

[Broad St. Bully]

Any new info on this position? I applied a few months back :rolleyes:

[MP-K-9]

just applied to the past announcment