View Full Version : FBI Announces Largest Hiring Blitz Ever!!
AgentHopeful03
01-06-2009, 11:06 AM
This article was in yesterdays (January 5th, 2009) Reuters top stories:
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE50459520090105?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=22&sp=true
**FBI states they need to hire 850 Special Agents**
Thats great news everyone!!
kylet123
01-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Oh what the hell. I won't make it past screening, but I guess if there is ever a time to try, now's the time to do it!
:D
14USC89a
01-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Sweet news...
Only if they matched pay...:rolleyes:
Danchise77
01-06-2009, 11:53 AM
I just put in my app for the FBI police my resumes decent i was curious do i have to foward any of those sheets examp..dd214 to be considered or is the app enough?Im trying to get it all together now.
AWarr
01-06-2009, 12:26 PM
I am currently a full time student.
I will be done with my Masters soon, and I really dont have any work experience except seasonal employment, and internships.
I need at LEAST a year of full time work before I can apply, right?
audi0xpl0de
01-06-2009, 12:35 PM
I am currently a full time student.
I will be done with my Masters soon, and I really dont have any work experience except seasonal employment, and internships.
I need at LEAST a year of full time work before I can apply, right?
What's your degree in? I have a master's and almost completed my Ph.D, but since it wasn't in one of their targeted areas I did not get past the application review.
AgentHopeful03
01-06-2009, 12:35 PM
I am currently a full time student.
I will be done with my Masters soon, and I really dont have any work experience except seasonal employment, and internships.
I need at LEAST a year of full time work before I can apply, right?
The FBI requires at least 3 years professional work experience.
Here is a complete list of requirements for special agent:
http://www.fbijobs.gov/111.asp
Imperial Agent
01-06-2009, 12:39 PM
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audi0xpl0de
01-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Well darn. I graduate next spring with a degree in accounting. Hopefully they'll still be hiring finance guys in the next 3-4 years!
Accounting degrees are always something they look for in recruiting.
ten08
01-06-2009, 12:50 PM
They just built a new building down by me on the Mexican Border, this might be an opportunity for qualified BP and Customs types.
Imperial Agent
01-06-2009, 12:52 PM
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AWarr
01-06-2009, 02:18 PM
What's your degree in?
Yeah, mines not in their target area.
BA in Criminology, Law and Society, and a Masters in Public Administration.
Up_On_Base
01-06-2009, 03:25 PM
The biggest issue w/ the FBI hiring is the critical skills. They are looking for language, IT, Accounting type people and many (not all) can't pass the PFT.
I passed phase 1 testing and been waiting for phase 2/PFT for almost a year. They called a couple of months ago for some info, then nothing since.
Over at 911 they have a ton of FBI info, do a search, I bet there is 400+ pages of good info.
dpd0779
01-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Same here, passed the Phase 1 back in July, nothing since. Maybe a phone call is in my future with this hiring blitz.
Goose9454
01-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Hi everyone,
so, i noticed that the FBI is starting to go on a hiring frenzy this morning just like the rest of us. theres only a couple things that i was wondering about and someone might have an answer. im 22 years old right now turning 23 within the next 6 months, i have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering and worked traffic 5 years for a local department. Im currently in grad school for public administration and taking police exams as well as teaching engineering at the local community college near where im living up in Binghamton NY.
i know im still kinda young but i was wondering if i should still apply now or wait (they dont exactly go on a hiring frenzy every day). i also wont fail the PT test, i've passed other police agility tests with ease, and not all engineers are out of shape.
also, with respect to the professional work experience, i heard that you need 3 years of work experience but someone else told me that people who are applying under CS/IT don't need the 3 years of work experience, but i figured this would be a good place to ask. any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
berman01
01-06-2009, 06:08 PM
I am certified in corrections and have had my certification for the past 2 years I was wonder if they would take me for the police officer positions that they have posted or if maybe I should just give up trying since I have applied with different agencies and never heard anything. PLEASE give me some input
berman01
01-06-2009, 07:01 PM
Also I have been trying log on to apply for a job through USA Jobs web sight since that's were it takes me to and all I keep getting is this message. Thank you for your interest in the FBI positions, we are expanding the capacity of our servers and expect them to be available soon. Anyone have another sight to apply or is it just through the USA Jobs sight?
Up_On_Base
01-06-2009, 07:12 PM
Guys -
No one on here can predict if you or anyone else will get hired by the FBI or anyone else.
Just apply, do your best, and see what happens. Not trying to be a jerk but when people ask "do I have a chance or should I apply" no one really knows. The worst thing that can happen is they say no.
Here is the website to apply, www.fbijobs.gov.
Here is the updated message...stand by.
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Based on the overwhelming response to our Hiring Initiative, the applicant hiring system is being enhanced to facilitate more efficient processing of your application and will be available shortly. The deadline for applications will be extended to accommodate this brief interruption.
Talon Razor
01-06-2009, 07:33 PM
Anyone know if it's still true that the FBI will automatically DQ you if you have a Guard contract with a few years left? One of my fed buddies was telling me this...
Geddy
01-06-2009, 08:19 PM
If you're intelligent and diversified and/or have a critrical skill and are a multi-talented track star who can perform pushups and situps with exaggerated form, then you have a shot. Good luck.
Up_On_Base
01-06-2009, 08:34 PM
If you're intelligent and diversified and/or have a critrical skill and are a multi-talented track star who can perform pushups and situps with exaggerated form, then you have a shot. Good luck.
Yep...great post...sarcastic but true.
Here is a video, check it out.
http://www.weta.org/tv/local/wetaallaccess/fbi
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-06-2009, 10:24 PM
Did this hiring blitz start on Jan 5th or end on Jan 5th? I seems like it was to end on the 5th since they said they would be extending the time for accepting applications. But why would they make the announcement that they are looking for applicants on the 5th if it started earlier?
Can anyone clear this point up?
AgentHopeful03
01-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Yep...great post...sarcastic but true.
Here is a video, check it out.
http://www.weta.org/tv/local/wetaallaccess/fbi
Great Link!! Thanks for posting that up. It really gives an idea of what the trainees will go through at the academy and what to prepare for.
I already watched the academy video 4 times :p
AgentHopeful03
01-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Did this hiring blitz start on Jan 5th or end on Jan 5th? I seems like it was to end on the 5th since they said they would be extending the time for accepting applications. But why would they make the announcement that they are looking for applicants on the 5th if it started earlier?
Can anyone clear this point up?
HeavenSoldier
01-06-2009, 10:54 PM
I am currently a full time student.
I will be done with my Masters soon, and I really dont have any work experience except seasonal employment, and internships.
I need at LEAST a year of full time work before I can apply, right?
You do not need 3 years of experience for a professional support position within the FBI. The experience factor is only for special agents, positions like the special surveillance group (SSG) will hire you right out of college with only a bachelors degree. Here is the link to apply for SSG (also take a look at other professional support positions), http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=78373025&AVSDM=2009%2D01%2D06+10%3A27%3A00&Logo=0&pg=2&jbf574=DJ02&FedEmp=Y&sort=rv&vw=d&ss=0&brd=3876&FedPub=Y&caller=/agency_search.asp, for some reason the fbijobs link is connecting the link to usajobs.
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Here's the old link (https://jobs1.quickhire.com/scripts/fbi-agent.exe/rundirect?Org=3&Job=12597)to apply on FBIjobs. Looks like they are getting a lot of traffic from their press release.
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-07-2009, 12:28 AM
Yea, don't forget perfect credit.
Automatic disqualifier if you've been late 30 days on a credit card?
That's ridiculous...
Is this a joke?
ICEAGENT
01-07-2009, 10:19 AM
Where are you guys getting the information about being 30 days late on a credit card as an automatic DQ. It doesn't say anything about that on the FBI website that I could find. I find it hard to believe that that would be an automatic DQ.
A concern for a BI, absolutely, as are any credit issues but an automatic DQ is quite harsh and arbitrary. There can be plenty of legitimate reasons why a person could be late on a credit card one time.
rbakous1
01-07-2009, 11:24 AM
Where are you guys getting the information about being 30 days late on a credit card as an automatic DQ. It doesn't say anything about that on the FBI website that I could find. I find it hard to believe that that would be an automatic DQ.
A concern for a BI, absolutely, as are any credit issues but an automatic DQ is quite harsh and arbitrary. There can be plenty of legitimate reasons why a person could be late on a credit card one time.
That's only for the FBI police announcement which I think is outdated. I was wondering the same thing though. It doesn't make any sense why FBI police would be more stringent than SA, but I did read it for that job. They may be extremely susceptible to bribery, or they may be trying to attract applicants with limited life experiences. Either way it's a totally stupid and unrealistic automatic DQ.
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-07-2009, 04:53 PM
It's absolutely NOT a joke.
"Yea, you could have used cocaine 10 years ago, but don't you dare have been late on that Sears bill or you're done mister..."
Please.
NCPDOC, I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but it is absolutely 100% WRONG. Everyone's clearance is adjudicated on a case by case basis. You could file bankruptcy twice in the past and have a horrible credit record and still get a TS/SCI. Or you could have perfect credit but be delinquent on a $.50 stick of bubble gum and refusing to pay for it and not get a secret clearance. Having a lot of current delinquent debt is the big problem, not so much what you have done in the past. Your clearance is based on your CURRENT risk of being blackmailed or being susceptible to extortion. Which means you can mitigate your credit problems in the past, by taking action to fix the problem by getting credit counseling, establishing a payment plan, or possibly even filing bankruptcy. But if you CURRENTLY have delinquent debt, then you have money problems and you could be blackmailed.
You don't have to take my word for it. There's an excellent blog called clearancejobsblog.com (http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/), it's run by a few former Adjudicators and Background Investigators. They volunteer to answer questions in a bi-weekly post called "Ask Your Clearance Questions (http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/?p=78)." You can read others questions or ask your own and they will tell what they think based on their experience. There are a lot of people on there that have credit problems that they believe will get a clearance.
If you don't believe them, then you can look at actual cases from DOD. Industrial Security Clearance (http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/) website shows thousands cases from DOD dating back to 1996. You can read on there where people filed for bankruptcy and owed millions of dollars, but were still granted a clearance. Then there are people that only owe a $1000 but were denied because it's currently delinquent. These are actual cases and many are for TS/SCI just like other intelligence agencies (Yes, DOD has intelligence too).
Anyways, you can believe me, believe the blog, or believe the actual cases, just stop spreading information if you don't know. That's how rumors get started.
ICEAGENT
01-07-2009, 05:40 PM
NCPDOC, I'm not sure where you are
getting your information, but it is absolutely 100% WRONG.
+1 to your post, however, I would just add there is a difference between agency requirements and security clearances. In other words, just because you can get a TS/SCI doesn't mean you will pass the FBI background check. In fact, there are probably many TS holders out there who couldn't pass the FBI BI.
Still, I can't imagine that a one time late payment on a credit card is an automatic DQ for the FBI.
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-07-2009, 05:50 PM
+1 to your post, however, I would just add there is a difference between agency requirements and security clearances. In other words, just because you can get a TS/SCI doesn't mean you will pass the FBI background check. In fact, there are probably many TS holders out there who couldn't pass the FBI BI.
Still, I can't imagine that a one time late payment on a credit card is an automatic DQ for the FBI.
Thanks, I understand that the FBI has a "Suitability" portion to their background investigation that could be more stringent than other agencies. Any idea what's involved in that portion?
ICEAGENT
01-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Thanks, I understand that the FBI has a "Suitability" portion to their background investigation that could be more stringent than other agencies. Any idea what's involved in that portion?
It's not that the FBI is more or less stringent, just that every agency adjudicates BI's in a different way with different standards. I would imagine that the FBI BI is concerned with the same basic issues as any BI, criminal, credit, associations, foreign contacts, drug use, etc. It is just that there might be more scrutiny or concern towards certain issues. For example, drug use would probably be more of a concern and scrutinized more closely for an applicant to a LE agency then it would be for an applicant for a security clearance from a defense contractor.
Statetriple
01-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Just got Tapped for Phase I in Mid Jan.
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-07-2009, 07:33 PM
Just got Tapped for Phase I in Mid Jan.
When did you do the online app? What field office?
Irishhammer
01-07-2009, 09:30 PM
It's mind boggling that even with 5 years of Police Experience and 8 years of military experience, 6 and 1/2 of which were in special warfare you still need a 4 year degree. Garbage.
Up_On_Base
01-07-2009, 10:05 PM
Just got Tapped for Phase I in Mid Jan.
Good luck brother, the new (well newer) version is much easier for the math impaired, no math section on the new test.
Still not a walk in the park but overall much easier compared to TEA.
AgentHopeful03
01-07-2009, 10:27 PM
Just got Tapped for Phase I in Mid Jan.
What part of the country you live? Has not been much action here in the CT or NY field office.
maybeFBIatfDEA
01-08-2009, 06:17 AM
"have ever been more than three months delinquent on any student loan, car loan, apartment rent or lease, personal loan, revolving credit card, or home mortgage loan;"
http://www.fbijobs.gov/126.asp#4
More than a mere rumor...
Ok, I thought you were talking about SA positions and background investigations. FBI police is a different story. My guess is they have so many people applying that they need to weed them out with ridiculous standards. SA is different.
rbakous1
01-08-2009, 12:04 PM
It's mind boggling that even with 5 years of Police Experience and 8 years of military experience, 6 and 1/2 of which were in special warfare you still need a 4 year degree. Garbage.
I hear you man. I'm in the opposite end of the spectrum. I have a MBA with a 3.7 GPA but didn't meet their minimum qualifications because I didn't have 3 years of full time competitive work experience. I have 3 years of full time experience, but it's spread over 10+ years and none of it was consistent nor related towards any of the critical skills, with the exception of diversified. FBI won't qualify you based solely on education either. Other agencies do though. You may want to look into Secret Service with your credentials.
Irishhammer
01-08-2009, 08:19 PM
I hear you man. I'm in the opposite end of the spectrum. I have a MBA with a 3.7 GPA but didn't meet their minimum qualifications because I didn't have 3 years of full time competitive work experience. I have 3 years of full time experience, but it's spread over 10+ years and none of it was consistent nor related towards any of the critical skills, with the exception of diversified. FBI won't qualify you based solely on education either. Other agencies do though. You may want to look into Secret Service with your credentials.
Looked into it at the very basic level, but I really don't think that their work environment is what I am looking for. I enjoy investigations. I have applied to the ATF, but I am really interested in the DEA/FBI, both of which require a 4 year degree, which I am only half way complete with. I am 33 and its taking me a long time to chip away at these classes, which is distressing. At this point, I am thinking of just finding the highest paying police job, applying and hoping for the best.
manstown
01-08-2009, 09:25 PM
DEA doesn't necessarily require you to have your degree anymore. Some experience can be substituted.
Irishhammer
01-09-2009, 09:49 AM
Ok, thats new.. Thanks for posting that, I wouldn't have checked back there for at least another few months.
Nickrd
01-09-2009, 10:27 AM
I did the panel interview with the FBI this past summer, but didn't get selected. They said I did well on the written portion, so must have been something in the interview or experience or something, not sure what. Well, apparently, you only get two shots at an interview ever, so I wasn't sure when I should use my second chance. With this new hiring frenzy, I was wondering if I should use it now as opposed to waiting and getting more experience or whatever. I have a BA in Biology and four years military/law enforcement experience. Anyone have any ideas?
davidh304
01-11-2009, 12:47 PM
DEA doesn't necessarily require you to have your degree anymore. Some experience can be substituted.
I heard this too from a SA in the Orientation Meeting, however they said this may be just a small window so take advantage of it now in case it changes.
Green_Latern21
01-11-2009, 01:15 PM
In their recent hiring announcement the DEA did lift the 4 year degree requirement. However, I wouldn't get to excited. I heard that they did that mostly so current TFO's can make the jump into the agency, most likely applicants who aren't TFO's and don't have a degree will still get passed up.
Just what I heard though....
Also, the FBI websites states is you are CURRENTLY 30 days late on a credit card it is a disqualifier, not EVER. It's 90 days EVER on a payment....
psycho1000r
01-11-2009, 11:24 PM
"have ever been more than three months delinquent on any student loan, car loan, apartment rent or lease, personal loan, revolving credit card, or home mortgage loan;"
http://www.fbijobs.gov/126.asp#4
More than a mere rumor...
they'll inquire about any deliquint account you may have had. BUT it wont automatically DQ you. i had a bill incollections from my car insurance co., it was a misunderstanding, but it was on my credit report as a "key deragotory" none the less because i never paid a bill that i was disputing. it didnt DQ me but i had to write a letter explaining my side of the story. so stop dicouraging people from applying over nonsense.
just make sure your uipfront with them when you fill out your sf 86 and go for your security interview.
AgentHopeful03
01-12-2009, 11:20 AM
Got the call today to retake the Phase I test in February. They said they are EXTREMELY busy with a flood of applicants due to the press on the hiring.
Time for me to study study study!!
Short-Round
01-12-2009, 11:51 AM
They took the math out of the test, not really anything you can study for.
E3CSHARP
01-12-2009, 12:45 PM
they'll inquire about any deliquint account you may have had. BUT it wont automatically DQ you. i had a bill incollections from my car insurance co., it was a misunderstanding, but it was on my credit report as a "key deragotory" none the less because i never paid a bill that i was disputing. it didnt DQ me but i had to write a letter explaining my side of the story. so stop dicouraging people from applying over nonsense.
just make sure your uipfront with them when you fill out your sf 86 and go for your security interview.
Thank you for the encouragement. With the current economic situation over recent years it would be unreasonable for the government to believe everyone were able to tell their bosses not to fire me and be unemployed for months.
Has anyone had any issues with trying to log on to the fbijobs site because for some reason you apparently are in their system already?
SEAL6770
01-12-2009, 12:51 PM
"have ever been more than three months delinquent on any student loan, car loan, apartment rent or lease, personal loan, revolving credit card, or home mortgage loan;"
http://www.fbijobs.gov/126.asp#4
More than a mere rumor...
Not to rehash this topic, but sometimes people on this forum make me laugh. You are on here quoting something that you haven't even read in context. Most of the people in NAT at Quantico are in their early to mid 30s. Do you think that these people have ever been 30 days late on their credit card? I would venture to say that some of them have at some point in their lives. The issue is with the context of that delinquency. How many years ago? How often throughout your adult life? PLEASE do not post things that you do not comprehend. It confuses people that are reading these forums looking for information from reliable sources. The best part is we are talking about agents and you post something from FBI police.
On another note, I had a co-worker that was picked up for the Bureau recently. He was nearly done with his Master's, had average grades in college, and was a DC police officer alongside me for 3 years. Also, he was no track star. He, however, is an excellent police officer and an intelligent individual. So, let us eliminate the perception that you have to perfect to obtain a position with any federal agency.
Statetriple
01-12-2009, 02:05 PM
Thank-you for saying that I hope people read and understand!!!!
Marine0431
01-12-2009, 11:03 PM
Anyone who has taken the phase I testing, let me know what it consist of or what kind of test it is?
SEAL6770
01-12-2009, 11:33 PM
All I was trying to point out is that if you have ever been 30 days late on a credit card or other type of financial accout, it is NOT an auto-DQ. The information states that if you are CURRENTLY 30 days overdue, it is an auto-DQ. That is on par with most police departments around the nation. They just want you to have your finances up to date at the time of applying. The site you posted was for FBI police officer, too, not FBI Special Agent.
Anyway, that is all I was trying to point out. I did not mean that you are making people not apply, but if someone read that post and didn't know better, they may have thought they would be an auto-DQ with 30 days overdue. No big deal, though.
SSterne
01-15-2009, 06:43 PM
Just got the call today for written/physical in Feb!
SupraRy
01-15-2009, 08:45 PM
Guys, would I be eligible for a position with the FBI with a two year degree in Information Technology/Computer Networking Systems? I have 3 years of work experience.
StateChamp
01-16-2009, 09:06 AM
Guys, would I be eligible for a position with the FBI with a two year degree in Information Technology/Computer Networking Systems? I have 3 years of work experience.
Taken from the announcement:
You must possess a four-year degree from a college or university
accredited by one of the regional or national institutional
associations recognized by the United States Secretary of Education.
SnakeDoctor
01-16-2009, 01:34 PM
How long does it take to get a response after faxing the requested documents?
Thanks.
Statetriple
01-16-2009, 02:24 PM
Finished Phase I today so twidle me thumbs till I hear something!!!!!
AgentHopeful03
01-16-2009, 04:18 PM
Finished Phase I today so twidle me thumbs till I hear something!!!!!
You should hear within a week or two if you passed.
Pexxy
01-18-2009, 12:03 AM
Well I just finished up my SA application over at fbijobs.gov,
faxed in my 214,SF15,VA Letter and my transcripts.
Im guessing that now the wait begins?
Also, Anyone know why its listed as a GS10 job?
Im have a hard time understanding the criteria for determining weather or not a job is GL vs. GS? Any info would be great, thanks.
dotcomer
01-18-2009, 12:37 AM
I took and passed Phase I in August of 2008 and haven't heard anything since. I inquired about this and the recruiter said calls for Phase II would go out in March of 09. My questions is, does everyone who passes Phase I get an invite to Phase II?
SnakeDoctor
01-18-2009, 01:57 PM
I filled out the online app for the SA position and all it asked for was to fax my transcripts. Will I have to fax in the other forms later?
FormerFuture
01-18-2009, 01:59 PM
My questions is, does everyone who passes Phase I get an invite to Phase II?
According to my SA, the answer is "absolutely not." After you pass Phase I, they look at the most attractive/needed candidates among those that passed Phase I.
I don't know exactly how it works, but each recruiting field office wants to nominate people that have the highest possibility of passing Phase II.
maybeFBIatfDEA
02-04-2009, 07:14 PM
The Special Agent Job Announcement just changed the closing date from Sept 30, 2009 to Feb 13, 2009. If you haven't put in your application, you'd better hurry if you want to be considered under the current announcement.
AgentHopeful03
02-04-2009, 10:10 PM
The Special Agent Job Announcement just changed the closing date from Sept 30, 2009 to Feb 13, 2009. If you haven't put in your application, you'd better hurry if you want to be considered under the current announcement.
Wow Im guessing they must have been inundated with applicants.
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