Mayor, City Council Reportedly Reach Deal On Budget

[BayRidge]

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/90736/mayor--city-council-reportedly-reach-deal-on-budget/Default.aspx

"While the state budget is taking center stage this morning, there's word a budget deal may be in the works at City Hall.

Sources tell the Daily News that the deal between Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the City Council would raise property taxes about eight percent, yet keep the $400 property-tax rebate in place.

That rebate has been a point of contention between the mayor, who wants to cancel it because the city cannot afford it, and some council members, who say homeowners deserve the checks they are counting on.

The deal reportedly would also keep in place about half of next month's police academy class, which the NYPD had threatened to delay.

Comptroller Bill Thompson yesterday warned the city could be facing a $1.9 billion budget gap this fiscal year. Bloomberg's original plan projected no deficit this year, with a $1.3 billion gap next year and $5 billion the following year."



Important part bolded. I know there's been a lot of bad news floating around and I know that nothing is set in stone. It's just nice to see something being reported that MIGHT actually be a good thing for us hopefuls.

[BigWill2876]

When Alex comes back above ground from his MTA job he may have more negative rumors to keep everyone 'up'......

[J-manX]

lets hope no more bad news come in and clouds up the stream of light.

[derfyderf]

If the jan class is back on, has anyone talked to their investigator about a start date?

[Alexp]

When Alex comes back above ground from his MTA job he may have more negative rumors to keep everyone 'up'......

Bro, what are you a child? I post news on here, good or bad............ You are acting like i go on here to bring everybody down. I helped numerous people on this forum with everything that i could, so if you can't handle bad news then stay off the forums.

[BayRidge]

If the jan class is back on, has anyone talked to their investigator about a start date?

I'll called my BI after I saw this online which happened to be like an hour after it was posted. She didn't know anything about it, nor did the BI's of the two other kids with me that called around the same time. So take it for what it's worth.

[richbrown123456]

Not saying to take this 100% true but the BI's not knowing doesnt mean much. They usually are kept in the dark also. Many of us knew about jan. being cancelled before the BI's did.

[JdotB]

Finally some good news.

[JackieBoy]

That must mean they'll probably put through a couple of hundred people. I wonder if it would still be slated to start on January 7th, or if it would be pushed back a couple of weeks. Maybe til February.

If the jan class is back on, has anyone talked to their investigator about a start date?

[Alexp]

I'll called my BI after I saw this online which happened to be like an hour after it was posted. She didn't know anything about it, nor did the BI's of the two other kids with me that called around the same time. So take it for what it's worth.

It is not even official yet, give them some time.

[cvamal]

if the idea goes through it will be a couple hundreds which means only old # exams....
all the 8XXX will probably wont get a chance:mad:...
Anyway that really shows that you cannot count on anything, each day it is changing and as the wise said...you do not know until you get the call.

It is good to get a little bit of hope though...would be a nice Christmas gift :D

[John2008]

if the idea goes through it will be a couple hundreds which means only old # exams....
all the 8XXX will probably wont get a chance:mad:...
Anyway that really shows that you cannot count on anything, each day it is changing and as the wise said...you do not know until you get the call.

It is good to get a little bit of hope though...would be a nice Christmas gift :D

not just that, but the cadets and former school safety and city workers get hired before regular civilians do.

[richbrown123456]

Didnt even think of that, So my guess is that my exam 6011 doesnt stand much of a shot? What do you guys think?

Also as for city workers and all that, I think that would only mean something if they took a promotional exam?

[John2008]

Didnt even think of that, So my guess is that my exam 6011 doesnt stand much of a shot? What do you guys think?

Also as for city workers and all that, I think that would only mean something if they took a promotional exam?

yup. they're hired of a promotional exam.

[richbrown123456]

oh ok.. so 6011 not looking to good? (If there is a class)

[bkny27]

call ur hooks now.

[richbrown123456]

I dont think hooks have much pull when it comes down to list and exam numbers, but who knows.

[NYCTNT]

6011 should be an ok exam to hire off of.

[madcat816]

all the old tests prior to 5000 are pretty much gone the end of this month

4056 is expiring 1/05/09
4009 & 5000 are expiring 6/29/09 & 6/30/09

so the 6000 exams aren't too far down the list

[cbioc329]

Does anyone know when this proposed deal is supposed to be decided on??.....it seems like they are cutting awfully close on time if they want to reinstate the january academy

[JdotB]

Does anyone have a list of exam numbers, or know where to get a list online, of all the exam numbers that have taken place and the order they are being hired in?

[WildCard1616]

Hopefully this is all true, thats great. Can someone please remind me the forms in the packet that must be typed, and how you go about doing this without a typewriter? Thanks in advance!

[kxl77]

Does anyone know when this proposed deal is supposed to be decided on??.....it seems like they are cutting awfully close on time if they want to reinstate the january academy

LOL, you get about 1-4 days notice to show up at queens college to be sworn in.

[cvamal]

LOL, you get about 1-4 days notice to show up at queens college to be sworn in.

My BI called me today, she wanted a copy of my gun permit...I mentioned to her the "potential good news" and she just said "yeah I heard, I am trying to get you in for January, so get me this paper. I am not sure though how many spaces there will be".

So it seems that the news reached the BI but as mentioned earlier it will probably be only for old exams and so on...but there is HOPE...

BTW better get hire soon because the great governor is trying to change the contract to 25 years on the job...for new hires...which S____

[FLA79]

The city and the Major reached an agreement to increase property tax by 7% and hire 250 police cadets in Jan 09 and another 250 in July 09


http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/90858/-p-style--font-size--18pt--line-height--1-2--sources-say-city-budget-deal-will-restore--400-rebate-checks--p-/Default.aspx

[kxl77]

The city and the Major reached an agreement to increase property tax by 7% and hire 250 police cadets in Jan 09 and another 250 in July 09


http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/90858/-p-style--font-size--18pt--line-height--1-2--sources-say-city-budget-deal-will-restore--400-rebate-checks--p-/Default.aspx

Nice. Police recruits, not cadets. ;)

250... That's not a lot. It's going to be REAL competitive.

[Gokou724]

Nice. Police recruits, not cadets. ;)

250... That's not a lot. It's going to be REAL competitive.

hopefully being asian will help...haha

[cvamal]

Nice. Police recruits, not cadets. ;)

250... That's not a lot. It's going to be REAL competitive.

8XXX exams...we can forget about it...unless a lot of the 5,6,7XXX are in Psy hold:D

would be interesting to know how many people there are in each group...just by my list # and considering I took the exam in feb...it is gonna be tough.

That s when you wanna have 5 points residency and 5 points army...

[J-manX]

I guess I don't have much of a chance for the July class :(

[EricDel]

Yeah I was thinking about taking the exam this month, but doubt I will now since they are hiring only 250. LAPD looks the way for me ;)

Good luck to you all!

[qwerty1234]

Anybody ekse take the test in June? You think theyll hire any 8---'s in this class or july?

[BMAC8411]

You never know who they are going to call until the calls go out. I am all processed and I took the test in August. There are people that took the test before me and still haven't had a medical. I spoke with my BI yesterday just to make sure all was in order and this was before I heard the potential good news. She is the one that I found out from about the half class in January. She told me straight out that my BI is all done and my file is in the mix for January. I'm not getting excited until the phone rings and they tell me to show up in queens.....I hope we're all there.

Good luck to all and hope to see some of you there if I make January.

[cbioc329]

I am exam number 5046....How are my chances for January???????....Anyways good luck to all and I hope all nypd hopefuls on officer.com make it......great bunch of people

[J-manX]

I think u might have a chance. Another question they letting 250 cadets in. How many cadets get in regularly ?

[NycNick98]

like 1500 lol

[J-manX]

I thought they meant the cadets from the program and the rest would be people that took the Exam. lol

[Jay718]

i took exam number 6011, my rank is within 200, u guys jus made my night with this news! callin my BI tomorrow

[cbioc329]

I'm callin my BI tomorrow hope to hear something good....I'll let you guys know anything I find out

[NYPD-dx371]

Hey guys/gals first time poster

I am exam number 7011 list 266....so Im praying I can get in

on my way to work now but Im going to call my Bi after.

She hasn't called anyway for my background check yet though...But I have passed everything else (Medical, pysch, JST)

would that prevent me from getting in? I was scheduled to go in Jan originally

[derfyderf]

as or today nothing has changed. There will be no mini medicals at this time. I guess we must be Patient and wait.

[BigWill2876]

From the news reports yesterday, they advise that today (Thursday) the City Council/Mayor will sign off on the new budget agreements.
That will allow for 500 thru the Academy as of this agreement for 2009.
Which is 500 more than was rumored on this site at the beginning of the week !
While this number is small versus past Academy classes it does keep movement and as we have seen, can be changed. Measuring versus other large Departments like Chicago for one, it is huge and much faster as well. (The average wait for CPD can be 3-4 years AFTER passing all phases of the hiring process.)
NYSP's current class in Albany has people from the previous test, now more than 4 years old !
Take this time to get in shape so that the JST is a breeze, under 3 minutes for everyone, pay down debt, don't take on more dept (wait on that 50inch LCD/HD flat, 1080p till after X-Mas, when nobody is buying !), get your college credits, and KEEP THE FAITH.

So for those with the NYPD dream, it's still intact, just getting more competitive, and isn't that what everyone wants it to be !

[BMAC8411]

Yeah that 500 number is 250 in January and 250 in July. Thank God I am all done with my process including my mini medical. I hope that moves me up the ladder a bit. I am sorry to the guys that have exam numbers before me that have had their mini meds cancelled. I guess I just lucked out on that one!

[BigWill2876]

Movement IS movement.

Mini Meds can be resched very easily.

Grass is greener is still alive and well. Friend of Dad, a Retired Officer in NJSP does background the invests for NJSP applicants that have LE backgrounds. He tells Dad that he is in NYC often, doing BI's on current NYPD and other LE guys/gals in the metropolitian area.

[JackieBoy]

Would the January academy still start on January 7th cause that's right around the corner?

Yeah that 500 number is 250 in January and 250 in July. Thank God I am all done with my process including my mini medical. I hope that moves me up the ladder a bit. I am sorry to the guys that have exam numbers before me that have had their mini meds cancelled. I guess I just lucked out on that one!

[Alexp]

Would the January academy still start on January 7th cause that's right around the corner?

Even though we lucked out, our test numbers can forget about the academy atleast until Jan 2010.

250 per class is a VERY small number. Oh well, just look at it this way, it could have been worse and both jan and jul got canceled, atleast there is some movement.

[madcat816]

well its about that time to turn in my residency/license change and stamp my file ready

[J-manX]

so by 250 cadets they don't mean the one from the cadets program?

[BMAC8411]

I think they simply made a mistake in language when they said cadet instead of recruit.

[JdotB]

To me it seems like two classes of 250 each is just a waste of money. Why not just have one class of 500 and cancel the other? Why pay the cost to run two academies a year, when you can easily just have one?

Hopefully they'll add more than 250 when the dates get closer, tho it's more of a reality for the July academy than January....but movement is movement and is better than nothing.

Either way, I can't start until January 2010 anyways.

[gbotj]

I wonder if they will hire 250, and then have another 50 or so go in as backfill if some drop out.

[BMAC8411]

To me it seems like two classes of 250 each is just a waste of money. Why not just have one class of 500 and cancel the other? Why pay the cost to run two academies a year, when you can easily just have one?

Hopefully they'll add more than 250 when the dates get closer, tho it's more of a reality for the July academy than January....but movement is movement and is better than nothing.

Either way, I can't start until January 2010 anyways.

Don't forget they don't only have NYPD recruits attend. MTA, Amtrak and other PD agencies use the NYPD and they have to PAY THE CITY.

[JackieBoy]

MTA wasn't putting anyone in for the January class due to a hiring freeze. Amtrak police I'm not sure about, but I always thought they were peace officers. The other agency that uses NYPD academy is SUNY.

Don't forget they don't only have NYPD recruits attend. MTA, Amtrak and other PD agencies use the NYPD and they have to PAY THE CITY.

[JdotB]

Don't forget they don't only have NYPD recruits attend. MTA, Amtrak and other PD agencies use the NYPD and they have to PAY THE CITY.

So would you think it would be 500 plus the recruits from the MTA, Amtrak, and other PD agencies....or 500 total from NYPD, MTA, Amtrak, and other combined?

[gbotj]

it will be 500 (total for 2009) NYPD recruits + whatever Amtrak PD puts through. I dont think any SUNY PD is going in, and MTAPD isnt hiring anyone for the class.

[k85o911]

Yeah that 500 number is 250 in January and 250 in July. Thank God I am all done with my process including my mini medical. I hope that moves me up the ladder a bit. I am sorry to the guys that have exam numbers before me that have had their mini meds cancelled. I guess I just lucked out on that one!

to correct you a bit. From what I see you took a fairly new exam. Furthermore, mini- meds will not stop one from going in before you.the way it works is that if your BI submits your folder, even though u havent done the mini med, you are ready for hire. so lets suppose that you have rank 100 in a faily new test and are all done, but someone else has everything done EXCEPT the mini med, but took a test 3 yrs ago, YOU WILL BE BYPASSED by that person, and will not go into jan academy

[BMAC8411]

to correct you a bit. From what I see you took a fairly new exam. Furthermore, mini- meds will not stop one from going in before you.the way it works is that if your BI submits your folder, even though u havent done the mini med, you are ready for hire. so lets suppose that you have rank 100 in a faily new test and are all done, but someone else has everything done EXCEPT the mini med, but took a test 3 yrs ago, YOU WILL BE BYPASSED by that person, and will not go into jan academy

I forgot you were a Chief and knew everything. Sorry to burst that bubble but if mini meds are cancelled and they don't feel like calling people in who are not totally finished then the people who are go in. We'll see what happens but my BI specifically told me my folder was in the January pile.


Good Luck!

[richbrown123456]

Bmac he is pretty much right. Thats how NYPD works older test first. Im in the same position as you with a exam number 6011 and i am worried i am not going to get in. So In my honest opinion you dont have a shot for this class unless they reach your exam. I have no clue how many people are in front of me but i am sure its several less then you. Good luck either way and hopefully we see a bigger class this jan.

Also dont forget people who take the promo test regardless of when are in front of us also (Cadets, city workers etc.)

[BMAC8411]

I guess my BI is a lier. All I can do is wait and see. Good Luck boys!

[NYPD-dx371]

Im exam number 7011
Im done with everything
but my Bi hasn't called any of my jobs, family or references yet...my interview with her was about 2-3 weeks ago could that affect me getting in this Jan?

[richbrown123456]

Bmac i hope you didnt take that in a offensive way. Im just saying what i know unless it changes. Your bi may not be a liar but they just arent very informed sometimes or maybe they know something we dont.

If not Dont forget, you will not be the first or last person who is lied or misinformed by a BI in the NYPD.

Only time can tell, IMO i dont think it makes much sense just to trow 250 into a class.

Good luck.

[richbrown123456]

NYPD-dx, you should be fine as long as all goes smoothly and they actual hire off your exam. At this point not sure if that is going to happen. I am 6011 and not to sure about my self either.

[NYPD-dx371]

NYPD-dx, you should be fine as long as all goes smoothly and they actual hire off your exam. At this point not sure if that is going to happen. I am 6011 and not to sure about my self either.

yea I have nothing to hide...great relationship with all former jobs and everything just praying and hoping I get a letter or call sometime soon


what a holiday gift that would be

Thanks for the help and good luck...if I dont get in now at least I know I will be close for July

[JdotB]

How did you take 6011 (Feb 07) and not get into July 08?

[Jay718]

as i stated earlier im also 6011 but i was just waiting to finish my undergrad which i did this week....im also worried about getting in, my BI contacted many of my references but i did not do a mini...we can think and speculate anything we want but we will not know until time comes

[NYPD13]

I called my BI to check the status of my investigation. She said that people that have taken recent exams are ineligible for Jan and July. Jan 2010 is the approximate date. Older test numbers have first priority. If your done with the process for recent exams then only time will tell if your in. Just thought I relay this message since every BI is saying different info.

[JdotB]

Ahh ok, yeah...I got a PM from someone else too saying that he was on hold and thats why.

I'm not moving to NYC until August when my lease is up here in Philly, then hopefully January 2010, if not then I'm really hoping July 2010. I'm just doing as much research as I can now and trying to get everything ready asap so there are zero setbacks.

I was in the process of becoming a CO here in Philly but that's just all up in the air now, and I really don't desire that job anymore and would much rather move to NY. My best friend just graduated FDNY this week, and I grew up in Bayonne when I was young so it's "home" to me.

Pretty much my life right now consists of working 40-45 hours a week, working out 5 days a week, researching on moving to NYC (I'm thinking Staten Island), researching on getting into NYPD, and spending about 1 day a week, if that, with my friends. Boring, I know....but hopefully worth it in the end.

[Alexp]

to correct you a bit. From what I see you took a fairly new exam. Furthermore, mini- meds will not stop one from going in before you.the way it works is that if your BI submits your folder, even though u havent done the mini med, you are ready for hire. so lets suppose that you have rank 100 in a faily new test and are all done, but someone else has everything done EXCEPT the mini med, but took a test 3 yrs ago, YOU WILL BE BYPASSED by that person, and will not go into jan academy


I asked my BI about this, you WILL NOT go to the academy if your mini med is not done. It doesn't matter who you know, it doesn't matter when you took your test or what you scored. If you haven't done your mini-med they will not let you into jan 09 academy class. Straight from horse's mouth.

[Alexp]

I called my BI to check the status of my investigation. She said that people that have taken recent exams are ineligible for Jan and July. Jan 2010 is the approximate date. Older test numbers have first priority. If your done with the process for recent exams then only time will tell if your in. Just thought I relay this message since every BI is saying different info.

^^THIS


If older numbers passed everything including mini med, they will go infront of newer tests who passed everything. If you are 8000s, not to bring you down but atleast don't quit your job yet.

[TXChopper]

I asked my BI about this, you WILL NOT go to the academy if your mini med is not done. It doesn't matter who you know, it doesn't matter when you took your test or what you scored. If you haven't done your mini-med they will not let you into jan 09 academy class. Straight from horse's mouth.


That sucks...My test number is 6101, but they canceled my mini med right after the mayor made his announcement back in Nov...should not have deferred for so long...lol!

[NYPD-dx371]

That sucks...My test number is 6101, but they canceled my mini med right after the mayor made his announcement back in Nov...should not have deferred for so long...lol!

Im 7011 but Im sure they will just send us for a new mini-med
I wouldn't be afraid of that...they will just re-schedule you Im sure

[richbrown123456]

Everyone needs to stop posting what their BI said and swearing by it. I have been doing this for over a year BI's are often misinformed or just dont have the information needed so they will tell you what they think and A LOT of the time it isnt what it is or it changes.

I appreciate everyone posting what they here from their BI, and keep on doing so, but to come on here and swearing by what your BI said is not right.

[NYPD13]

^^THIS


If older numbers passed everything including mini med, they will go infront of newer tests who passed everything. If you are 8000s, not to bring you down but atleast don't quit your job yet.

I just want to clear this up. What I was referring to is bmac comment. He said that his bi told him that his folder is with the jan class and he's exam 8307. I'm just saying when the time comes it will tell if he is in from what his bi said to him. Anything can happen after all you did start earlier with your investigation then any 8305 exam. Just saying anything can happen. My fault for not being detailed.

My bi already told me that I had to wait until jan 2010 since nypd is only having a few hundred recruits in the academy. I'm just relaying what my bi told me.

[giants86]

yea everyones bi's are saying different things so theres really no telling what will happen, i geuss we just wont know for sure until we get the call, until then im just hoping for the best...

[cvamal]

Yeah I was thinking about taking the exam this month, but doubt I will now since they are hiring only 250. LAPD looks the way for me ;)

Good luck to you all!

pass it bro, because they were talking about reinstating the fee to take the exam...cost nothing and valid for 4(?) years.

[Jay718]

mini-meds can easily be scheduled for those who have not already conducted one. I recieved a call the day before my mini-med stating it was cancled. this was due to economic circumstances. i do not think that having your mini-med scheduled before someone else holds much merit when it comes to going into the january class. they can call us back for them just as quick as they canceled them. from the best of my knowledge and what i know in regards to civil service exams, those people who have older test numbers and higher rank numbers are subject to a position before those who have scored a lower score on an exam. in other words higher scores and older test numbers get the call first as long as there is no background problems. from what i know. they must take 1 out of 3 of the top ranking people. once again this is from the best of my knowledge. skipping the ranks would defeat the whole purpose of a civil service exam. but then again this is from what i know, i may not be right! all we can do is wait and see. good luck to everyone!

[k85o911]

mini-meds can easily be scheduled for those who have not already conducted one. I recieved a call the day before my mini-med stating it was cancled. this was due to economic circumstances. i do not think that having your mini-med scheduled before someone else holds much merit when it comes to going into the january class. they can call us back for them just as quick as they canceled them. from the best of my knowledge and what i know in regards to civil service exams, those people who have older test numbers and higher rank numbers are subject to a position before those who have scored a lower score on an exam. in other words higher scores and older test numbers get the call first as long as there is no background problems. from what i know. they must take 1 out of 3 of the top ranking people. once again this is from the best of my knowledge. skipping the ranks would defeat the whole purpose of a civil service exam. but then again this is from what i know, i may not be right! all we can do is wait and see. good luck to everyone!

exactly