March class

[msin6]

I heard from a friend who recently went through the academy that they may be putting in a class in March. I don't want everyone to get their hopes up, but just thought I would pass it on.

[FordRanger]

Are you talking about Nassau County or another department?

[Back to NYC]

NYPD. I've heard this rumor as well. *shrug* March class, then a July class that would overlap with it. The city will clear off as many old lists as possible, so if you took a newer test...you might be waiting til July or later.

[PBXTech]

Althought that would be great news, I was at my medical today and the only class they said anything about was the July 2009 class.

[NYCTNT]

So you heard this info from a rookie cop?

VERYYYYYYYYY PLAUSIBLE THEN!

[Back to NYC]

So you heard this info from a rookie cop?

VERYYYYYYYYY PLAUSIBLE THEN!

True, but I heard it from someone who works at the Academy, so perhaps the rookie knew what he was talking about this time.

[Nav]

I heard that too march/April class from a NYPD detective a few weeks ago but i didn't want to say anything because there are a lot of rumors. lets wait and see what happens!!

[cbioc329]

As much as I think this may be to good to be true..........I SURE HOPE IT IS TRUE..... DAMN

[NycNick98]

now wouldn't that be a nice holiday gift....

[derfyderf]

I hope our specualtion's become a reality. If this becomes true, does this mean the class will end in July before the new class begins?

[bkny27]

No it would still be 6 months.

[cbioc329]

Has the NYPD ever put in a class early or late like that before????

[Nav]

Has the NYPD ever put in a class early or late like that before????

i am not 100% sure but i think i heard that ex-mayor Juliani(or some other ex-mayor) did put in a class like that.

[gbotj]

NYPD didnt always do Jan and July classes. They used to put them in anytime they had enough candidates to fill the class (keep in mind, it used to be 3000 to a class)

[NycNick98]

i am not 100% sure but i think i heard that ex-mayor Juliani(or some other ex-mayor) did put in a class like that.

I think you are right, I think it was him who has done it. I know some one has.

I may be wrong, by my dad was saying an ex mayor ( i think Giuliani) put thru an academy and then did the freeze then, making the guys who finished the academy wait to go on the street until they were able to get things cleared up. In a way I rather wait now, than have to after the academy.

[caterpillar8u]

rumors, rumors everywhere...
rumors, rumors in my hair...

well, i sure wish there was a class that would start as early as march. again, this would derail all of the plans i've been making for my life since finding out the jan class was cancelled....but i'd still prefer that over waiting till july, or even later....

last night on the ABC 11pm news they said the january class was cancelled for sure, but also said that the july class might be cancelled as well...!

anyone hear about this from other sources? (and i don't mean the guy selling hot dogs and pretzels on the street corner!)

lastly, does anyone know how the scheduling of all subsequent classes would work out? say there was a march class...does that mean all subsequent classes would be march/september only? or would they find a way to revert back to the traditional january/july classes? there is only one academy...so i don't see how they can overlap two concurrently running classes.

[gbotj]

they said the july class will only be 500-700 recruits. IF they did a march class it would probably only be 500-700, the march class would be on its own 4 months, and then run with the July class for 2 months. By the time the July class went in, theyd probably be up to their workshops, out of the academy, range week, evoc etc. The instructors can handle 2000+ recruits. Running a split class would probably be no problem.

[caterpillar8u]

from which sources are you getting the 500-700 figure?
if that's true then that would suck....i'd probably get assed out of this next class then if it's only 500-700.

what is the normal size of each class? close to 2000?

and i wonder what the retention rate is for the academy....surely out of an initial 2000 there has to be a few hundred who quit/can't meet the standards...

[richbrown123456]

Well 500-700 is form the NYPOST. Not sure how reliable they are and when they said that it seemed more like speculation.

I doubt to many people will quit they have in other years.

[caterpillar8u]

i would love to hear more about this March class. gives me something to daydream about, i guess....as i go about the day...

hell, just a week ago when i asked my BI about the jan class being cancelled her response was that they weren't told a thing....and what i found funny was that she added that she hoped the jan class didn't get cancelled...and when i asked her why, she said it was because she sometimes made overtime off of us!

[STXHammer]

i would love to hear more about this March class. gives me something to daydream about, i guess....as i go about the day...

hell, just a week ago when i asked my BI about the jan class being cancelled her response was that they weren't told a thing....and what i found funny was that she added that she hoped the jan class didn't get cancelled...and when i asked her why, she said it was because she sometimes made overtime off of us!

So along with the "Collars for Dollars" It's now "Candidates for Dollars". I'll be thinking about a March Class also.

[bkny27]

my instructor said today that he heard about this as well. But anything can change and he dosnt think it will happen. the will just wait the 4 months till july.

[Alexp]

rumors, rumors everywhere...
rumors, rumors in my hair...

well, i sure wish there was a class that would start as early as march. again, this would derail all of the plans i've been making for my life since finding out the jan class was cancelled....but i'd still prefer that over waiting till july, or even later....

last night on the ABC 11pm news they said the january class was cancelled for sure, but also said that the july class might be cancelled as well...!

anyone hear about this from other sources? (and i don't mean the guy selling hot dogs and pretzels on the street corner!)

lastly, does anyone know how the scheduling of all subsequent classes would work out? say there was a march class...does that mean all subsequent classes would be march/september only? or would they find a way to revert back to the traditional january/july classes? there is only one academy...so i don't see how they can overlap two concurrently running classes.



I posted it a few weeks ago, a friend of mine in 77 precient called me up andtold me a Lt just told him july class will be canceled. He said its not official yet but its the samew 't who told him Jan class will be canceled about a week before it was announced, so I am not getting my hopes up.

[BigWill2876]

Yes, we recall you posting the "rumor that you didn't want to post", but did anyway.

So here is another rumor with the same validity as your thread...

[Max67]

Looks like its going to get worse before it gets any better, unreal.

NYPD Layoffs Possible (http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/90568/nypd-faces-possibility-of-layoffs/Default.aspx)

[cvamal]

Hum March Academy, that would be a real treat... but as much as I would enjoy it, it sounds difficult to me.

I will stay positive...if crime keeps spiking up until the next election, bloomy may have to do something, so this ^$%%#%%# who did some &#$^^#^#^ by changing the election law did not waste his time and get a chance.

Best for him would be to show some willingness to curb crime and put more bodies in the street.

That is probably the only way we will get hired next year but that would be the only reason, the economy sucks, so no money=no hire.

(BUT I STILL DAY DREAM ABOUT A MARCH ACADEMY...SIGN ME UP)

[cvamal]

BTW this doesnt mean you should go out and help the crime to spike up:D
Although it would mean more probability for me to get hire:rolleyes:
Just joking...lets wait and stay out of trouble

[madcat816]

layoffs?

they gotta be kiddin
the center of the world already 3k short in officers, not including the 1k that Jan won't have ...

and they even brought up the possible idea of layoffs???

insane

[NYCTNT]

Its way more than 3k short of cops.

[cvamal]

On the PBA website Lynch said it is 5000 short...anyway another article publish lately:

By Patrick J. Lynch

Thursday, December 11, 2008

While Mayor Bloomberg and the City Council wrangle over homeowners' tax rebates and possible tax increases, both sides must be careful not to play the very dangerous game of ignoring the critical role of the NYPD in crimefighting and prevention.

The fine work of NYPD officers is the reason for the downward spiral of crime over the past decade. Sadly, that trend may be coming to an end as the murder rate inches upward in many neighborhoods. Now, it appears the administration plans to cancel next month's Police Academy class of 1,100 officers.

This is no time for our politicians to be contemplating — much less proposing — the elimination of Police Academy classes. Doing so could force this city back to the way things were in 1990, when Brian Watkins, a 22-year-old tourist from Provo, Utah, was on an E train subway platform with his parents and other relatives heading out for a night on the town on what had been a very enjoyable vacation to attend the U.S. Open tennis tournament. The group's good time was shattered when a gang of thugs surrounded them during a robbery. In the ensuing melee, Watkins, attempting to defend his mother, was knifed to death.

And let's not forget a similar case last month.

On the afternoon of Nov. 15, in the lobby of a jewelry store at the tourist-filled Waldorf-Astoria hotel, Gregory Boyle, a 54-year-old retired NYPD detective working security, was shot in a brazen robbery attempt. Boyle's bravery foiled the robbery and, fortunately, he survived.

Although separated by almost two decades and in starkly different crime-rate contexts, the incidents may have more in common than we would like to believe.

The Watkins murder embodied every out-of-towner's nightmare of crime in the New York City of those mayhem-stricken times. And it was one of the factors that led to the passage of state legislation known as Safe Streets, Safe City, strongly supported by the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association. The program ultimately enabled the ranks of the NYPD to swell to a high of 40,285 uniformed officers on June 30, 2000.

At the time of the Watkins murder, there were just under 34,000 officers assigned to the NYPD and the Housing and Transit Police departments. Following the manpower crest reached in 2000, the ranks began getting thinner. The September 2008 head count was 36,049 and, according to Peter Vallone, the chairman of the City Council's Public Safety Committee, the NYPD will hit a 15-year low of 33,325 if the January '09 class is deferred.

The ability of our police force to maintain safety is too important to our economic engine to be reduced to a pawn in the legislative and executive branches' budget maneuvering. The first responsibility of government is to protect the life and property of its citizens and that necessitates an adequately staffed Police Department.

While property values and tourist revenues have soared over the past decade, the real estate bubble appears to be eroding the former and a crime increase would certainly destroy both.

City Budget Director Mark Page's recent Council testimony that the city can be policed just as effectively with fewer officers defies common sense. Leaders should learn the lessons of the Watkins murder. Blade-wielding gang members are less likely to roam freely and gunmen are less likely to invade the Waldorf when a well-staffed police force, employing the right tactics, is on the job.

Eliminating Police Academy classes — or even threatening to do so — is a dangerous game with deadly consequences.

Lynch is president of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association.