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texaschickeee
11-15-2008, 09:20 AM
TACOMA, Wash. — A boy who ran away at age 9 and talked his way onto airplane flights to Texas has blown too many chances to clean up his act and must live with a felony record for a prior car theft, a judge has decided.
Since his headline-making escapade in January 2007, Semaj Booker, now 11, has attempted to repeat his airline runaway act, broken curfew, lied to police, burglarized an apartment and destroyed a mattress in juvenile detention, Pierce County Deputy Prosecutor Fred C. Wist said Thursday.
The boy seemed to feed off the attention from his initial escapade, the exasperated prosecutor told Superior Court Judge Frank E. Cuthbertson on Thursday.
"Mr. Booker has never been held accountable for his actions," Wist said. "The time has come, your honor, for this court to say enough is enough."
Cuthbertson agreed, revoking a deferred disposition of the boy's conviction for stealing a neighbor's car and leading authorities on a high-speed chase on State Route 512, crimes he committed a day before he slipped out of his home again, made it onto two flights and got as far as San Antonio in an attempt to visit his grandfather in Dallas.
The boy also was ordered to pay $100 to a crime-victim compensation fund, make $3,000 in restitution to the car owner, April Kettner, whose Acura he totaled, and perform four hours of community service.
Wist said the boy won't face more time in detention, but for the rest of his life will be obligated to reveal the conviction to potential employers unless he later persuades a judge to seal his juvenile record.
Arguing that Booker is a "product of the dysfunction" in his family, defense lawyer Brett A. Purtzer asked in vain that the judge put off a decision for three months pending civil proceedings on whether the boy and three siblings should be returned to the custody of their mother, Sakinah Booker.
The children have been placed in foster care at Cuthbertson's request pending a dependency hearing next month.
"It's time for you to step up and stop all the drama and stop all the nonsense and stop making these bad decisions and be a person who's going to help your family and is going to help our community," Cuthbertson said. "For some reason, I still believe you can do it."
texaschickeee
11-15-2008, 09:21 AM
"Attempted to repeat his airline runaway act, broken curfew, lied to police, burglarized an apartment and destroyed a mattress in juvenile detention, and the first one was talking his way to Texas." I think with all this on his record, at only 11 he deserves the felony and needs some counseling to redirect his life before he gets locked up.
Next up- drug charges if he doesn't stop!
Taylor13
11-15-2008, 11:24 AM
I don't know how this kid smooth-talked his way into an airplane...
Ceridwen
11-15-2008, 11:41 AM
You know this could all have been prevented if someone would have just spanked the crap out of him a little more.
I don't know how this kid smooth-talked his way into an airplane...
Most people don't expect this kind of deception from children.
Taylor13
11-15-2008, 11:43 AM
You know this could all have been prevented if someone would have just spanked the crap out of him a little more.
Most people don't expect this kind of deception from children.
Yeah, that is true.. hey.. did you let him on?
ChopperCopper
11-15-2008, 01:33 PM
If he cleans his act up he needs to be a business man.
Ceridwen
11-15-2008, 01:40 PM
Yeah, that is true.. hey.. did you let him on?
Hehe, no. I do usually let kids come up and sit in my seat and press buttons and stuff if we have time before or after the flight, I like doing that and like children. Few parents ask these days though. :(
When I was a kid (the 80s) you could come up to the cockpit in the air and maybe even touch the controls. Thats certainly verbotten now! (It's against our GOM/op specs to allow non-company pilots to touch the controls in flight, although I have let flight attendants fly during repo flights with no passengers onboard. Some of them were pretty good!)
mavriktu
11-15-2008, 01:55 PM
Hehe, no. I do usually let kids come up and sit in my seat and press buttons and stuff if we have time before or after the flight, I like doing that and like children. Few parents ask these days though. :(
When I was a kid (the 80s) you could come up to the cockpit in the air and maybe even touch the controls. Thats certainly verbotten now! (It's against our GOM/op specs to allow non-company pilots to touch the controls in flight, although I have let flight attendants fly during repo flights with no passengers onboard. Some of them were pretty good!)
Oh Really???:rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cANNP4ibgM&feature=related:eek::D
sweetcynic
11-15-2008, 05:46 PM
If he cleans his act up he needs to be a business man.
Really... The kid has demonstrated persistence, shrewdness, and excellent persuasive skills. He's already demonstrated more brains than many drunks/druggies have. Unfortunately, I can more easily see him growing up into a professional con artist and/or professional thief than using these skills in a positive manner.
Edit to add: Why do I doubt that he presently cares about the ramifications a felony conviction could have on his future(but only if he gets his act togerther)?
Taylor13
11-15-2008, 05:55 PM
If he cleans his act up he needs to be a business man.
Or a lawyer....
Hehe, no. I do usually let kids come up and sit in my seat and press buttons and stuff if we have time before or after the flight, I like doing that and like children. Few parents ask these days though. :(
When I was a kid (the 80s) you could come up to the cockpit in the air and maybe even touch the controls. Thats certainly verbotten now! (It's against our GOM/op specs to allow non-company pilots to touch the controls in flight, although I have let flight attendants fly during repo flights with no passengers onboard. Some of them were pretty good!)
Okay, just making sure. I use to go up in the front seat, my my dads friend had his wedding and we had to fly to Arkansas I got to sit up in the cockpit, no buttons were pushed, but I got a plastic delta wings pin and I got to take my picture up there behind the yok and had the captain hat on.
Oh Really???:rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cANNP4ibgM&feature=related:eek::D
I sincerely doubt she'd ask a little kid about that.
Ceridwen
11-15-2008, 05:57 PM
Thats a classic. Taylor, ever been in a turkish prison?
texaschickeee
11-15-2008, 06:01 PM
Or a lawyer....
.
beat me too it.
Although I don't think you can be one with a felony record. :confused:
Monty Ealerman
11-15-2008, 06:24 PM
Yes, it possible for a former felon to become a lawyer. And not every felony will get a person who's already a lawyer disbarred. In general, you have to convince the bar association that you are at the time of consideration for membership a person of good moral character. Ultimately, it's up to the Supreme Court of the state to determine whether you are allowed to practice law in the state.
Taylor13
11-15-2008, 06:36 PM
Thats a classic. Taylor, ever been in a turkish prison?
N.. no ma'am.
beat me too it.
Although I don't think you can be one with a felony record. :confused:
Well you got a point there..
Outshined
11-15-2008, 06:42 PM
"Attempted to repeat his airline runaway act, broken curfew, lied to police, burglarized an apartment and destroyed a mattress in juvenile detention, and the first one was talking his way to Texas." I think with all this on his record, at only 11 he deserves the felony and needs some counseling to redirect his life before he gets locked up.
Next up- drug charges if he doesn't stop!
I think he is a good candidate for POTUS.
ChopperCopper
11-15-2008, 06:47 PM
If he stole the car and then gave it to a person too lazy to steal their own car, then he would be a good candidate for POTUS.
Taylor13
11-15-2008, 07:02 PM
If he stole the car and then gave it to a person too lazy to steal their own car, then he would be a good candidate for POTUS.
You sir are awesomely correct.
Retired96
11-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Heres how I see it,
Grandpa was probably a dirtbag.
Daddy was probably a dirtbag.
The kid is a dirtbag.
Any kids he might sadly produce will also be dirtbags.
jshawn
11-15-2008, 11:00 PM
Heres how I see it,
Grandpa was probably a dirtbag.
Daddy was probably a dirtbag.
The kid is a dirtbag.
Any kids he might sadly produce will also be dirtbags.
Funny, that's the way I see it too and it's too bad that the rights for the Grandpa to reproduce was not revoked using a government ordered snip job :mad:
Felony Record (2+) Or Signs That You'll Be Stupid All Your Life = Automatic Snip
ERMDPD
11-15-2008, 11:08 PM
Funny, that's the way I see it too and it's too bad that the rights for the Grandpa to reproduce was not revoked using a government ordered snip job :mad:
Felony Record (2+) Or Signs That You'll Be Stupid All Your Life = Automatic Snip
Lmao!!! Great post! :cool:
sweetcynic
11-16-2008, 10:17 AM
Heres how I see it,
Grandpa was probably a dirtbag.
Daddy was probably a dirtbag.
The kid is a dirtbag.
Any kids he might sadly produce will also be dirtbags.
Pretty much... Though I bet even daddy and granddaddy probably weren't getting busted for felonies at 9.... The behavior combined with the skilled lying makes me think he's probably a sociopath.
wirefire2
11-16-2008, 09:33 PM
You know this could all have been prevented if someone would have just spanked the crap out of him a little more.
Most people don't expect this kind of deception from children.
Perhaps the problem he's been spanked, and probably beaten, enough already.
Sadly he has what is called a conduct disorder, its the first stage for a Antisocial personality disorder, which people like Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer have.
There is no known effective treatment for this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
Taylor13
11-16-2008, 09:40 PM
Isn't Dahmer a cannibal?
LA DEP
11-16-2008, 10:07 PM
Perhaps the problem he's been spanked, and probably beaten, enough already.
Sadly he has what is called a conduct disorder, its the first stage for a Antisocial personality disorder, which people like Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer have.
There is no known effective treatment for this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
Sure there is......:D
Its rather permanent though......
Ceridwen
11-16-2008, 11:14 PM
Perhaps the problem he's been spanked, and probably beaten, enough already.
Sadly he has what is called a conduct disorder, its the first stage for a Antisocial personality disorder, which people like Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer have.
There is no known effective treatment for this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
I wasn't aware he had been diagnosed with a conduct disorder. I don't know if I would characterize conduct disorder as a "stage." Although prior conduct disorder will help a diagnosis of AsPD in an adult.
There are treatments for conduct disorders as well, although many have to be custom tailored for the child, and many have been shown to be somewhat effective especially if begun early.
What is without doubt is that an untreated a child is much more likely to develop into AsPD as an adult but it is not necessarily a "stage" of AsPD.
Looker
11-16-2008, 11:26 PM
Isn't Dahmer a cannibal?
WASN'T... And yes he was.
Ceridwen
11-16-2008, 11:27 PM
Yes, he was killed in prison in 1994. His pathology was a little more complicated than simply labeling him a 'cannibal' though.
Looker
11-16-2008, 11:33 PM
Yes, he was killed in prison in 1994. His pathology was a little more complicated than simply labeling him a 'cannibal' though.
Not complicated if you aren't trying to label him with just one problem. That was just one of his 'traits'.
Taylor13
11-17-2008, 01:09 AM
Yes, he was killed in prison in 1994. His pathology was a little more complicated than simply labeling him a 'cannibal' though.
ohhh
Iowa #1603
11-17-2008, 07:29 AM
Just to prove that child criminals are not a "new thing" ...........here are a couple former inmates at my place...................................
http://www.asphistory.com/HTM/john.htm
http://steve.wendl.googlepages.com/lestersmith
sweetcynic
11-17-2008, 07:45 AM
Then there are some who started early and continued often....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis
[edit] 1960s
March 6, 1967: At age 12, Davis has his first contact with law enforcement when he was arrested for burglary in Chowchilla, where he lived with his grandmother.
May 24, 1967: Arrested again for forging a $10 money order. He stayed briefly in juvenile hall before his father moved him and his siblings to La Honda.
November 15, 1969: Arrested for the burglary of a La Honda home.
November 16, 1969: The first of several occasions when Davis' father turns Davis and his older brother over to juvenile authorities for incorrigibility.
[edit] 1970s
September 15, 1970: Arrested for participating in a motorcycle theft. A probation officer and judge accept his father's suggestion that he enlist in the Army to avoid being sent to the California Youth Authority.
July 1971: Entered the Army. His military record reflects several infractions for AWOL, fighting, failure to report, and morphine use.
August 1972: General discharge from the military.
February 12, 1973: Arrested in Redwood City for public drunkenness and resisting arrest. Placed on one-year summary probation.
April 21, 1973: Arrested in Redwood City for being a minor in possession of liquor, burglary and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Charged with trespassing, later dismissed.
August 13, 1973: Arrested in Redwood City leaning against hedges extremely intoxicated. Released upon sobriety.
October 24, 1973: Arrested in Redwood City on traffic warrants. Between April and October, he was implicated in more than twenty La Honda burglaries, leading a probation officer to report that residents were so angry at him he might be in danger if he returned to La Honda. He pleaded guilty to burglary and was sentenced to six months in county jail and placed on three years' probation.
May 13, 1974: Arrested for burglarizing South San Francisco High School. He was sent to the California Medical Facility, Vacaville, for a 90-diagnostic study. A county probation officer recommended prison, but proceedings were suspended when Davis enrolled in a Veterans Administration alcohol treatment program. He quit on the second day.
September 16, 1974: Sentenced to one year in county jail for the school burglary. He was allowed to leave jail to attend a Native American drug and alcohol treatment program. He failed to return, leaving behind two angry fellow inmates who had given Davis money to buy drugs and bring the contraband back to jail.
March 2, 1975: After being released, the two inmates tracked Davis down and shot him in the back. He was rearrested on a probation violation for failing to return to jail. Later, he testified against the inmates, earning him the epithet of "snitch" from fellow inmates. He was placed in protective custody.
April 11, 1975: Arrested for parole violation.
July 11, 1975: Arrested for auto theft and possession of marijuana. Received 10-day jail sentence.
August 13, 1975: Probation revoked after arrest for San Francisco burglary and grand theft. He was sentenced to a term of from six months to 15 years in prison.
August 2, 1976: Paroled from Vacaville.
September 24, 1976: Abducted Frances Mays, a 26-year-old legal secretary, from the South Hayward BART station and attempted to sexually assault her. She escaped and hailed a passing car in which California Highway Patrol Officer Jim Wentz was riding. Wentz arrested Davis.
December 8, 1976: Transferred to Napa State Hospital for psychiatric evaluation after he tried to hang himself in a cell at Alameda County Jail. He later admitted he faked the suicide attempt in order to be sent to a state hospital, where he could more easily escape. He was mistakenly admitted as a voluntary patient rather than a prisoner.
December 16, 1976: Escaped from Napa State Hospital and went on a four-day crime spree in Napa. He broke into the home of Marjorie Mitchell, a nurse at the state hospital, and beat her on the head with a fire poker while she slept. He broke into a car to kidnap Hazel Frost, a bartender, as she climbed into her Cadillac outside a bar. When she saw he had bindings, she rolled out of the car, grabbed a gun from beneath the seat and fired six shots at the fleeing Davis.
December 21, 1976: Broke into the home of Josephine Kreiger, a bank employee, in La Honda. He was hiding in brush behind the home with a shotgun when arrested by a San Mateo County sheriff's deputy.
June 1, 1977: Sentenced to a term of 1 to 25 years in prison for the Mays kidnapping. A sexual assault charge was dropped as part of a plea bargain. He was later sentenced to concurrent terms for the Napa crime spree and the La Honda break-in.
[edit] 1980s
March 4, 1982: Paroled from the Deuel Vocational Institute in Tracy.
November 30, 1984: With new girlfriend-accomplice Sue Edwards, he pistol-whipped Selina Varich, a friend of Edwards' sister, in her Redwood City apartment and forced her to withdraw $6,000 from her bank account. Davis and Edwards make a successful escape.
March 22, 1985: Arrested in Modesto when a police officer noticed a defective taillight. He and Edwards were charged with robbing a Yogurt Cup shop and the Delta National Bank in Modesto. Authorities in Kennewick, Washington, were unaware for several years that the pair had robbed a bank, a Value Giant store and the Red Steer restaurant during the winter of 1984–1985. Davis later confessed to the crimes in an attempt to implicate Edwards, whom he believed to have broken a promise to help him while he was in prison.
[edit] 1990s
June 27, 1993: Paroled from the California Men's Colony, San Luis Obispo, after serving half of a 16-year sentence for the Varich kidnapping.
October 1, 1993: Davis kidnapped Polly Klaas during a slumber party at her Petaluma home and murdered her.
October 19, 1993: Arrested in Ukiah for drunken driving during the search for Klaas. He failed to appear in court.
November 30, 1993: Arrested for parole violation on the Coyote Valley Indian Reservation north of Ukiah; he is identified as the prime suspect in the kidnapping.
December 3, 1993: Davis provides investigators with information that leads them to Klaas's body off U.S. Route 101 near Cloverdale.
December 7, 1993: Charged with the kidnapping/murder of Klaas.
June 18, 1996: Convicted of kidnapping/murder of Klaas.
August 5, 1996: Superior Court jury in San Jose recommends death sentence.
texaschickeee
11-17-2008, 08:49 AM
Just to prove that child criminals are not a "new thing" ...........here are a couple former inmates at my place...................................
http://www.asphistory.com/HTM/john.htm
http://steve.wendl.googlepages.com/lestersmith
Both of these charming kids show alot of the same behavior problems and even went more then this kid. THe kids really need a long term prison/ institution to live at, up until death that is.
Those two will do the same thing again. Only with dope next time.
Monty Ealerman
11-17-2008, 11:04 AM
Yes, he was killed in prison in 1994. His pathology was a little more complicated than simply labeling him a 'cannibal' though.Yeah, apparently it wasn't about nutrition. I would want to give the guy that stomped the mop in the restroom to split off a spear, and then speared him, a medal for it, if he hadn't killed the nearby other guy too.
It's sad that those 2 cops that found the incoherent naked Thai boy running down the street apparently didn't notice a hole Dahmer had drilled in the boy's head, and were, inexplicably in my opinion, persuaded by Dahmer to give the kid back to him.
I admire the coolness of the guy that got him caught. He thought they were engaged in bondage play, and allowed himself to be handcuffed. Then when Dahmer told him what was in store for him, he acted like he was OK with it, and Dahmer released him from the cuffs, and the guy later got away and alerted the police.
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