I Was Just Terminated From The Lapd After 4 Months In A Academy Class

[notoriousrich]

WELL I HAVE JUST BEEN TERMINATED FROM THE LAPD. PERSONELL AT THE ACADEMY DID NOT GIVE ME A FULL REASON WHY I WAS BEING TERMINATED BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT AT FIRST THE CAME UP WITH A INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED 2 MONTHS BEFORE. THEY CALLED ME INTO A ROOM LATE ONE DAY AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY WANTED ME TO RESIGN, AND STATE THAT THEY WANTED ME TO WRITE ON THE RESIGNATION LETTER I WAS LEAVING FOR "PERSONAL REASONS". I REFUSED AND WAS PLACED ON INACTIVE DUTY FOR AROUND 2 MONTHS AND FINALLY WAS CALLED IN AND WAS GIVIN A TERMINATION LETTER. THE LETTER JUST SAYD " POLICE OFFICER I, -______ serial number #####,has failed to meet the standards of a recruit police officer, the department therefore contends that recruit officer______ should be terminated while on probation." now my question is i didnot do anything serious that was tothe point of straight termination because they wanted me to resign but i didnot so i believe they took 2 months and didnot find a reason to terminate me so they just let me go for failure to meet department recruit standards. i asked for the person in charge to give me a reason and he sayd i dont need to give u a reason because our a recruit and we can terminate you for any reason.. that wasnt fair of them, i was left thinking why i was terminated, now i would like to know if i can re apply tot he lapd in a couple of years. i am 22 years old, or if any other department would hire me. the termination letter says you may request restoration on the eligible list. does that meen i can still be hired by the lapd? maybe in future years to come

[ateamer]

How was your performance in the academy? How did you do on the LD tests? How was your shooting, defensive tactics, PT and attitude?

[notoriousrich]

i was up to date with all my ld tests never failed any, and shooting i was one of the top recruits. i was even a squad leader and always participated in class. my D.I was shocked wen he was given notice i was being terminated.

[Ricky_G]

[QUOTE=notoriousrich;1468632]WELL I HAVE JUST BEEN TERMINATED FROM THE LAPD. PERSONELL AT THE ACADEMY DID NOT GIVE ME A FULL REASON WHY I WAS BEING TERMINATED BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT AT FIRST THE CAME UP WITH A INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED 2 MONTHS BEFORE.

What happened 2 months before???

[LA Copper]

So tell us what happened two months before.... Maybe we can figure it out once you give us that info.

You can always go to the Personnel Department on Temple Street and speak to someone there, maybe they could give you the straight answer.

I'm guessing, and it's only a guess given the very limited information you've given us, is that they asked you to sign a resignation letter so that you wouldn't have a firing in your career background, that way you could still be hired by other departments.

[notoriousrich]

i was told by a instructor to go home early because doctor placed me on complete off duty but was only suppose to place me on light duty for 4 days and well instructor told me not to show up tp academy till i had a doctors note stating i was cleared so i was told to go straight to the doctors office the next day. i recieved the note and a few days later i had therapy in the morning so i went straight to the doctors in the morning. arrived to the academy and instructor sayd that i had to go to the academy first then to the doctor but previously was told togo straight to the doctor. so a bit of a mixup there.... was asked to sign a form stating i was not going to be paid the hours i was gone so i did. months passed and all of a sudden i was called into the office and well i explained the rest..

[Ricky_G]

I'm still in the process and don't know the proper procedure but did you not check in evey morning and let staff know you weren't going to make it for X reason? If that were me, I would have shown up regardless(unless I'm in the hospital or something tragic happened) and let them decide whether I should stay or go to the Dr.'s.... my .02 cents

[notoriousrich]

from what my understanding the instructor had told me before togo straight to the doctor the time i was told i needed the letter from doctor so i had therapy so i was at the doctors first thing in the morning

[eviioiive]

eviioiive.

[Mabbottusmc]

You have no rights until your off probation. With my dept. that's 18 months after graduation. So you have 2 years after being hired you can be let go for no reason.

[not-a-deputy-yet]

i was told by a instructor to go home early because doctor placed me on complete off duty but was only suppose to place me on light duty for 4 days and well instructor told me not to show up tp academy till i had a doctors note stating i was cleared so i was told to go straight to the doctors office the next day. i recieved the note and a few days later i had therapy in the morning so i went straight to the doctors in the morning. arrived to the academy and instructor sayd that i had to go to the academy first then to the doctor but previously was told togo straight to the doctor. so a bit of a mixup there.... was asked to sign a form stating i was not going to be paid the hours i was gone so i did. months passed and all of a sudden i was called into the office and well i explained the rest..

Did you get hurt while at the academy? Or was it something that happend before that caused the doc to put you on light duty?
I'm just curious.
This sucks! Being at the academy that long and now being let go. Sorry to hear that.
I can't imagine that when one day I make it to the academy, plan all around it, such as schedule, family and life pretty much only to find out that I didn't make it for some reason. I am trying not to burn any bridges with my current employeer and even past ones incase I ever must come back in the future. something like this would not be good for me, especially that I have a wife and two kids that depend on my salary.

[scotsmen]

WELL I HAVE JUST BEEN TERMINATED FROM THE LAPD. PERSONELL AT THE ACADEMY DID NOT GIVE ME A FULL REASON WHY I WAS BEING TERMINATED BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT AT FIRST THE CAME UP WITH A INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED 2 MONTHS BEFORE. THEY CALLED ME INTO A ROOM LATE ONE DAY AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY WANTED ME TO RESIGN, AND STATE THAT THEY WANTED ME TO WRITE ON THE RESIGNATION LETTER I WAS LEAVING FOR "PERSONAL REASONS". I REFUSED AND WAS PLACED ON INACTIVE DUTY FOR AROUND 2 MONTHS AND FINALLY WAS CALLED IN AND WAS GIVIN A TERMINATION LETTER. THE LETTER JUST SAYD " POLICE OFFICER I, -______ serial number #####,has failed to meet the standards of a recruit police officer, the department therefore contends that recruit officer______ should be terminated while on probation." now my question is i didnot do anything serious that was tothe point of straight termination because they wanted me to resign but i didnot so i believe they took 2 months and didnot find a reason to terminate me so they just let me go for failure to meet department recruit standards. i asked for the person in charge to give me a reason and he sayd i dont need to give u a reason because our a recruit and we can terminate you for any reason.. that wasnt fair of them, i was left thinking why i was terminated, now i would like to know if i can re apply tot he lapd in a couple of years. i am 22 years old, or if any other department would hire me. the termination letter says you may request restoration on the eligible list. does that meen i can still be hired by the lapd? maybe in future years to come

Sir please tell me that while you were still in the academy you used better spelling and grammar.

[SgtCHP]

!. Sorry to hear that you were discharged.

2. During probation, you can be discharged for a failure to meet standards. You have an appeal right, but don't expect any positive outcome on that.

3. During your time off, take a course or two on writing and english grammar.

4. Apply with other agencies. All is not lost just because LAPD let you go.

5. Be up front with your BI.

Obviously, you erred in some degree or you would not have been terminated. None of us can do anything to assist you in regaining your position. Follow the instructions given you in the notice and re-apply at a later time.

Good luck.

[IronBruin]

3. During your time off, take a course or two on writing and english grammar.


Very good advice.

[serenade84]

I hope you don't regret not taking the resignation offer, as opposed to getting fired.

[mobtown]

California is an "at-will" employment state therefore you can be terminated for any (legal) reason. As unfair as it sounds, that's how it is.

http://research.lawyers.com/California/Employment-Law-in-California.html

[sap123]

California is an "at-will" employment state therefore you can be terminated for any (legal) reason. As unfair as it sounds, that's how it is.


That's the crux of it. How can you be fired if there is not a good reason (or at least them not telling you?)

The answer to that question is that it doesn't matter, if you're a probationary employee, all bets are off.

[DOAcop38]

!. Sorry to hear that you were discharged.

2. During probation, you can be discharged for a failure to meet standards. You have an appeal right, but don't expect any positive outcome on that.

3. During your time off, take a course or two on writing and english grammar.

4. Apply with other agencies. All is not lost just because LAPD let you go.

5. Be up front with your BI.

Obviously, you erred in some degree or you would not have been terminated. None of us can do anything to assist you in regaining your position. Follow the instructions given you in the notice and re-apply at a later time.

Good luck.

DITTO,sarge! first off- something "smells" here- I graduated back in the "dark ages" of LAPD academy training,and believe me- to get bumped out of the current LAPD academy, you REALLY have to be UNSAT. also- they don't terminate you for medical reasons unless its a serious issue that would effect your performance(know of an HIV+ recruit who made it on to the job, but he quit and went back into more lucretive priv. industry while on probation).At the worst ,you can apply somewhere else and get hired ,if you have your act together-plenty of depts hiring, and you can also send yourself thru the academy at rio hondo or fullerton city college academy, then apply.at best? you will probably have the chance in the next 6 os to a yr to reapply and be ACCEPTED back into LAPD......

[bigcitypolice06]

When you start the academy it is pending a complete and ongoing background check that continues until you are off probation. If somthing came up 2 months before you probably have an idea ast to what it is. Remember the background does not just look at your criminal and personal history but your medical records as well. If they looked into somthing in your medical records that you mislead them about (or failed to disclose) during your hiring process you could be fired during the academy or even on probation.

[Kieth M.]

Rich -

I had my wife read your post and see if she had any input. She was a civilian assistant OIC for the training division at one time. I was LAPD for 30 years. She thinks, and I think that there is more to your story. More you haven't shared with us.

I decided to see some of your previous posts. Here's one from March, even before you entered the LAPD academy. I have cut/pasted it as it appears:

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i am currently in the hireing process and almost done. alll i need is the phsycological interview that i have next week. any heads up on what to expect. and as far as the academy.. do u get to carry ur weapon off duty( out of class) while in the academy? when do they issue uniforms. for the academy/

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Your spelling and grammar was not good before you came our way, and looking at your post, above, you haven't improved any.

The question about "carrying a gun while off-duty, while in the Academy" really sends up a very large red flag, at least to me. I would be questioning your maturity level, right off the bat.

My opinion is that you were given an opportunity to resign (for personal reasons) rather than be terminated, and I think you've chosen poorly. Now you'll have a termination on your record. I'm not saying police work is done for you, it will just be more difficult. And most likely, it won't be with any of the five L.A. City L.E. agencies.

Best of luck, elesewhere, another day down the road.

[mdrdep]

+1 to Keith. Reading your posts, I'm sorry but I see not only a lack of proper grammar and spelling but a lack of maturity in your writting. It doesn't mean your completly done in your potential LE career, just that you need a little more work on the personal side before you come back to us. Good luck in the future.

[IronBruin]

I'm just wondering how he passed the PQE, apparently they don't actually read those things.

[IMachU]

+2 to mdr dep and Kieth. Hang in there, take writing and grammar classes (then take pride in your written product).

[Kieth M.]

i was up to date with all my ld tests never failed any, and shooting i was one of the top recruits. i was even a squad leader and always participated in class. my D.I was shocked wen he was given notice i was being terminated.

Here's another red flag. You say you had two months in, when you were asked to resign. Then they sent you home for two months before termination. So when, exactly, were you shooting? Your first two months are spent at ARTC, and there's no live fire going on there. You don't put any live rounds downrange until you get to Davis/EVOC.

Regarding your "being a squad leader" in the first weeks of the Academy, as I recall, that's usually just about being the "X"th number in line, when they divide the class up into squads - meaning that, say, in a class of forty, every tenth recruit in line (as determined by heighth) will be a squad leader, until leadership and class standing are determined by your class coordinators.

I have also received a PM, and I admit that it's from "someone who knows someone" at ARTC - the PM says that two recruits were let go. One for report writing and one for cheating. Anything else you want to tell us about about that "incident" you mention in line two of your original post?

But, back to your initial question, can you still be hired by LAPD? The letter says what it says! If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered. My suggestion is that you want to take the steps necessary to make yourself a better candidate/recruit. Spend the next few months improving your communication skills - spelling, puncuation, and grammar.

[LAschoolCop]

Here's another red flag. You say you had two months in, when you were asked to resign. Then they sent you home for two months before termination. So when, exactly, were you shooting? Your first two months are spent at ARTC, and there's no live fire going on there.

I have also received a PM, and I admit that it's from "someone who knows someone" at ARTC - the PM says that two recruits were let go. One for report writing and one for cheating. Anything else you want to tell us?

Hmmmmmmmm always more to the story!!

[IMachU]

....and the plot thickens......

[IronBruin]

He forgot to tell us that he was never in the academy at all, and this was just a bad story.

[Ricky_G]

OUCH!!!!!:eek:

[serenade84]

Wow, really?

[FortLoddy]

Dang that hurts

[mdrdep]

I don't know about LAPD Academy, but at LASD's Academy being a squad leader in the beginning of the academy is not a good thing. It's used more to put problem kids in the hot seat and see if they can take the pressure. The first 2 class sgt's and several of the plt. sgt's did not make it to graduation.

[Berlioz]

I hate to be the killjoy here but last year during November, LAPD completely overhauled and restructured their academy. It is completely scenario and group based learning...and yes, there is live fire in the first few weeks. I think they spend their time evenly between ARTC, EP, and Davis training facilites. Its not at all like how it used to be...

[Kieth M.]

I hate to be the killjoy here but last year during November, LAPD completely overhauled and restructured their academy. It is completely scenario and group based learning...and yes, there is live fire in the first few weeks. I think they spend their time evenly between ARTC, EP, and Davis training facilites. Its not at all like how it used to be...

Ahhhhh, yes, the RCMP recruit training model, you're right! I remember that was headed their way....okay, let's await notoriousrich's response.

[EricDel]

I hate to be the killjoy here but last year during November, LAPD completely overhauled and restructured their academy. It is completely scenario and group based learning...and yes, there is live fire in the first few weeks. I think they spend their time evenly between ARTC, EP, and Davis training facilites. Its not at all like how it used to be...

How did you like it compared to your regular academic like academy?

[NLVPD]

Give This Guy A Break On Grammar He Just Got News That He Was Fired, Im Sure He Would Not Have Made It To 4 Months If That Was The Case. He May Be Hurt And Trying To Seek Help Not A Grammar Lesson :-<

[Kieth M.]

Give This Guy A Break On Grammar He Just Got News That He Was Fired, Im Sure He Would Not Have Made It To 4 Months If That Was The Case. He May Be Hurt And Trying To Seek Help Not A Grammar Lesson :-<

His grammar/spelling, as pointed out in post no. 20, was the same before he got hired.

And, has he pointed out, he was only there two months before he was sent home another two months to await the outcome - he didn't "make it" for four months, only two.

And, while you're preparing for your appointment with NLVPD (and, presumably, not hurt), you may wish to break that habit of capitalizing every word in a sentence. Okay? We're here to help.

[DOAcop38]

Give This Guy A Break On Grammar He Just Got News That He Was Fired, Im Sure He Would Not Have Made It To 4 Months If That Was The Case. He May Be Hurt And Trying To Seek Help Not A Grammar Lesson :-<

Could be "ESL"- we've noticed alot of 1st generation types coming on the job- no slap at them,as most often speak 1- 3 additional languages,and DO have college educations, but are still struggling to fully be fluent in english /I however still smell something "fishy" in his story, as LAPD academy only boots out people who are total non hackers! even the marginal are given alot of chances to come up to par..........( again no slam on current or recent LAPD academy grads, but the city NEEDS officers, and dumping folks who can be "rehabilitated" is a just a waste of time)

[FortLoddy]

Give This Guy A Break On Grammar He Just Got News That He Was Fired, Im Sure He Would Not Have Made It To 4 Months If That Was The Case. He May Be Hurt And Trying To Seek Help Not A Grammar Lesson :-<



This is so annoying. Please learn how to type properly.

[Berlioz]

How did you like it compared to your regular academic like academy?

I didn't attend the new program...

DOA, have you seen any difference in the quality/knowledge/etc of recent academy grads since they changed the format?

[IronBruin]

Give This Guy A Break On Grammar He Just Got News That He Was Fired, Im Sure He Would Not Have Made It To 4 Months If That Was The Case. He May Be Hurt And Trying To Seek Help Not A Grammar Lesson :-<

You should consider taking the same advice that we gave him, your grammar isn't very good either.

[toughjerseyguy]

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[Mtoledo]

Kieth M.

I don't think you should be giving advice on grammar and spelling.

Your wrote this:

"If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered."
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a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".

LOL!!!!!

[avalon42]

Kieth M.

I don't think you should be giving advice on grammar and spelling.

Your wrote this:

"If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered."
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a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".

C'mon, stop nitpicking. Everyone does it eventually. :D

The all-caps is annoying to read, almost as annoying in the reverse (some people use lower-case letters at the beginning of each word, then CAPS on the rest of them).

[Kieth M.]

Kieth M.

I don't think you should be giving advice on grammar and spelling.

Your wrote this:

"If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered."
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a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".

Sounds like somebody needs an e-hug! C'mon, toughjerseyguy, we both know this isn't about my spelling and grammar.;)

Besides, perhaps my run-on sentence was in response to his run-on question!

[Flanker]

Kieth M.

I don't think you should be giving advice on grammar and spelling.

Your wrote this:

"If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered."
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a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".




Yeah, everyone. Stop listening to Keith's advice now. His grammar and spelling errors are out of control.

[SgtCHP]

This is starting to get interesting and good! :rolleyes:

[Copp'rPenny]

Yeah, how can you respect the spelling of a guy named K-I-E-T-H? ;) Though seriously, I am a professional writer and editor (as well as an occasional personal chef, but I digress), and I've just learned to bite my tongue (my fingers???) on all the misspellings and faulty grammar around here.

Then again, as I have so much to learn from all of you, perhaps I can return the favor?

"Grammar hotline, may I help you?" :)

[Meat]

NLVPD, what the hell is "virture?"

And why is he using the name NLVPD (North Las Vegas PD) but his avatar is a Las Vegas Metro PD badge (completely different agency)?

[IronBruin]

And why is he using the name NLVPD (North Las Vegas PD) but his avatar is a Las Vegas Metro PD badge (completely different agency)?

Identity crisis? :confused:

[Driven]

Sir please tell me that while you were still in the academy you used better spelling and grammar.

!. Sorry to hear that you were discharged.

2. During probation, you can be discharged for a failure to meet standards. You have an appeal right, but don't expect any positive outcome on that.

3. During your time off, take a course or two on writing and english grammar.

4. Apply with other agencies. All is not lost just because LAPD let you go.

5. Be up front with your BI.

Obviously, you erred in some degree or you would not have been terminated. None of us can do anything to assist you in regaining your position. Follow the instructions given you in the notice and re-apply at a later time.

Good luck.

Very good advice.

Rich -

I had my wife read your post and see if she had any input. She was a civilian assistant OIC for the training division at one time. I was LAPD for 30 years. She thinks, and I think that there is more to your story. More you haven't shared with us.

I decided to see some of your previous posts. Here's one from March, even before you entered the LAPD academy. I have cut/pasted it as it appears:

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i am currently in the hireing process and almost done. alll i need is the phsycological interview that i have next week. any heads up on what to expect. and as far as the academy.. do u get to carry ur weapon off duty( out of class) while in the academy? when do they issue uniforms. for the academy/

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Your spelling and grammar was not good before you came our way, and looking at your post, above, you haven't improved any.

The question about "carrying a gun while off-duty, while in the Academy" really sends up a very large red flag, at least to me. I would be questioning your maturity level, right off the bat.

My opinion is that you were given an opportunity to resign (for personal reasons) rather than be terminated, and I think you've chosen poorly. Now you'll have a termination on your record. I'm not saying police work is done for you, it will just be more difficult. And most likely, it won't be with any of the five L.A. City L.E. agencies.

Best of luck, elesewhere, another day down the road.

I don't mean to be overly critical or harp on this issue, but I'd have to agree with the things I BOLDED above, stated by other people (and many I didn't quote). I don't know what in the world is missing in education today but more and more young people seem to have a literacy problem, in particular in this area of English, I.e. Spelling, punctuation, word meanings and grammar (No capitals, no periods or commas, no sentences, "than" instead of "then" or visa versa, "their" instead of "there" or visa versa, "hear" instead of "here"). Some teenager from the local high school came in to a video store I had stopped at and asked the following question of one of the clerks: "How much is the games?". Seriously? How much IS the games?

If this is what your writing is like in the academy and then on the street when writing tickets, you are in real trouble.

Don't get me wrong, everyone makes mistakes and has some issues in writing but man alive, it just seems to be getting silly. It's gone beyond the everyone makes a mistake point, to the point of it being pervasive in writing and very difficult to follow. Do they still teach writing in school? Do they still give grades on it?

Keith M. also makes another good point..... seems there's more to the story than we're told.

[Mtoledo]

Here's a prime example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC1yUZJEQIk

LOL!

But if I made that much money....who cares.

[Copp'rPenny]

I don't mean to be overly critical or harp on this issue, but I'd have to agree with the things I BOLDED above, stated by other people (and many I didn't quote). I don't know what in the world is missing in education today but more and more young people seem to have a literacy problem, in particular in this area of English, I.e. Spelling, punctuation, word meanings and grammar (No capitols, no periods or commas, no sentences, "than" instead of "then" or visa versa, "their" instead of "there" or visa versa, "hear" instead of "here"). Some teenager from the local high school came in to a video store I had stopped at and asked the following question of one of the clerks: "How much is the games?". Seriously? How much IS the games?

If this is what your writing is like in the academy and then on the street when writing tickets, you are in real trouble.

Don't get me wrong, everyone makes mistakes and has some issues in writing but man alive, it just seems to be getting silly. It's gone beyond the everyone makes a mistake point, to the point of it being pervasive in writing and very difficult to follow. Do they still teach writing in school? Do they still give grades on it?

Keith M. also makes another good point..... seems there's more to the story than we're told.


Umm, it's "capitals." :o (But I do agree with you.) :D

[FortLoddy]

Kieth M.

I don't think you should be giving advice on grammar and spelling.

Your wrote this:

"If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered."
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a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".



Yeah, I doubt you should be giving anyone advice.

[Meat]

more and more young people seem to have a literacy problem, in particular in this area of English, I.e. Spelling, punctuation, word meanings and grammar (No capitols, no periods or commas, no sentences, "than" instead of "then" or visa versa, "their" instead of "there" or visa versa, "hear" instead of "here").


Or my personal peeve, "your" versus "you're". It drives me nuts when someone types "your wrong" or "your funny".

[IronBruin]

Yeah, I doubt you should be giving anyone advice.

Seriously. At least he didn't say, "your an idiot" or "you have bad grammer".

[hbliam]

Kieth M.

I don't think you should be giving advice on grammar and spelling.

Your wrote this:

"If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered."
-------------------


a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".

What is worse? Pointing out bad grammar and spelling with bad grammar and spelling, or spelling something wrong when pointing out someone's mistakes when they corrected someone else? :)

[FortLoddy]

What is worse? Pointing out bad grammar and spelling with bad grammar and spelling, or spelling something wrong when pointing out someone's mistakes when they corrected someone else? :)

lol, Exactly!

[j91184]

I didn't fully understand how important writing correctly is in the law enforcement until I started posting here. I hated when everyone would correct me on my spelling (I was really bad) but I have to confess it has made me a better writer. I always double check my writing now so someone else won't correct me!

[Ricky_G]

tuff crowd!!!!:D

[Copp'rPenny]

You're kidding, right?

[Ricky_G]

Gotcha!!!!

[Driven]

Umm, it's "capitals." :o (But I do agree with you.) :D

Nice catch :) Correction made;)

Like I said, a mistake "hear or their" :D is one thing. As you can see from all the responses pointing out the errors everyone does it. But every sentence? :eek: That's out of control.

[MT2658]

Yew gies need tew goh bak tew skool and lern proper gramer and speleeng liek me. I am tha perfekt applikant. I wil be hyerd with tha ferst departmant I applie too. Watch ahnd cee

[R1pilot]

I think it has a lot to do with technology. Kids (and young adults) today spend A LOT of time behind a pc shooting messages full of abreviated and sometimes invented words. Don't even get me started about the text message revolution.

Bottom line, people spend less time writing, less time talking, and even less time interfacing with one another.

If you happen to be a fan of The Boondocks, "It's just ----- technology.":D

[LAschoolCop]

So what happened to the OP???

[Driven]

Yew gies need tew goh bak tew skool and lern proper gramer and speleeng liek me. I am tha perfekt applikant. I wil be hyerd with tha ferst departmant I applie too. Watch ahnd cee

ROFL!!!! GOOD STUPH!!!!!!:D

[BIG RICH]

haha now im really scurred 2be posten stough in hurr. cant go wyth won centense width out sum1 seighing sumthen.. ha ha ha

[MT2658]

haha now im really scurred 2be posten stough in hurr. cant go wyth won centense width out sum1 seighing sumthen.. ha ha ha


lern too spel. "sum1" is spelt sumwon.

[Driven]

haha now im really scurred 2be posten stough in hurr. cant go wyth won centense width out sum1 seighing sumthen.. ha ha ha

lern too spel. "sum1" is spelt sumwon.

:D:D:D

[ateamer]

Try being an FTO with some of the kids who have been through our public schools. Personally, I don't think the entry level exam should require college level English skills. If the applicants can't hack it, screw 'em. I'd rather work shorthanded with only the best than fully staffed with guys who can't write reports correctly.

[Driven]

Try being an FTO with some of the kids who have been through our public schools. Personally, I don't think the entry level exam should require college level English skills. If the applicants can't hack it, screw 'em. I'd rather work shorthanded with only the best than fully staffed with guys who can't write reports correctly.

Did you mistype this?

Do you mean they should?

[Copp'rPenny]

Actually, the entry tests do a good job of testing English skills. It's the passing grade that needs to change.

[ateamer]

Did you mistype this?

Do you mean they should?
:eek: Dammit! Just rate me NRT for Task Area 12 - Grammar/Spelling!

Yeah, I mean that college-level skills SHOULD be required for the written test.

[Kieth M.]

I just had a very interesting talk with a former co-worker. An LAPD psychologist who maintains an eye on the training process.

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villa-Reconquista, is adamant that his campaign promise to have 10,000 cops working LAPD by the end of his first term, will be fulfilled. They are warning him about lowering standards and retaining people incapable of handling the job. He says, "Get it done." Sooooo, my PhD buddy says they're getting people into the LAPD Academy who cannot write a coherent sentence....these are even people with 2 and 4-year degrees.

[R1pilot]

My current supervisor has a double major and is a CCIE (highest cisco certification you can obtain) and she can't spell or properly conjugate to save her life. Sometimes I feel like correcting her emails and shooting them back.

I don't think college level coursework is a factor here; it's got to be something else.

[TWH]

This is getting good. The thread has gone from questioning credibility to questioning English skills. :D

A thread like this one, is just another reason to love Firefox (internet browser): built in spelling check.

A great online resource I've used in the past is:

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/

The Purdue site is very easy to navigate and they give good examples.

[Copp'rPenny]

Hey, can we correct the public's grammar while in uniform??? I really COULD become the grammar police! :D The one I hate the most: Me and him went to the mall. AAAGGGHHH! :mad:

[Copp'rPenny]

This is getting good. The thread has gone from questioning credibility to questioning English skills. :D




Well, because the OP has disappeared, we've got to talk about SOMETHING (sumthing ;) ).

[Kieth M.]

Well, because the OP has disappeared, we've got to talk about SOMETHING (sumthing ;) ).

Yeah, notice how he's kept his interest in getting our answers.:rolleyes:

[sap123]

Kieth M.
a classic run-on sentence and guarantee is not spelled "guaruntee".

EDIT: You know what, no. Everyone just read this and be in awe.

[DOAcop38]

I didn't attend the new program...

DOA, have you seen any difference in the quality/knowledge/etc of recent academy grads since they changed the format?

YEA....... AAAAHHH ! Sad ...... ( for everyone- LAPD/LAXPD/GSDPD); it comes down to this- those who are bright, will survive and the marginal and "bricks" are in serious trouble. The difference? At LAXPD, we can house the bricks BETTER than they can be in any division( and those dummies get ARROGANT enough to actually believe they are somehow EQUAL to people who actually WORK and KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE):mad:

[ridin' along]

And the hillarity continued?

[FJDave]

Whoa....nice old and dusty thread there....nice first post too....

[AWarr]

Here's another red flag. You say you had two months in, when you were asked to resign. Then they sent you home for two months before termination. So when, exactly, were you shooting? Your first two months are spent at ARTC, and there's no live fire going on there. You don't put any live rounds downrange until you get to Davis/EVOC.

Regarding your "being a squad leader" in the first weeks of the Academy, as I recall, that's usually just about being the "X"th number in line, when they divide the class up into squads - meaning that, say, in a class of forty, every tenth recruit in line (as determined by heighth) will be a squad leader, until leadership and class standing are determined by your class coordinators.

I have also received a PM, and I admit that it's from "someone who knows someone" at ARTC - the PM says that two recruits were let go. One for report writing and one for cheating. Anything else you want to tell us about about that "incident" you mention in line two of your original post?

But, back to your initial question, can you still be hired by LAPD? The letter says what it says! If the termination letter says you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list - then you can ask to be re-instated on the eligible list and considered, again for employment - it's not a guaruntee of employment, only that you'll be considered. My suggestion is that you want to take the steps necessary to make yourself a better candidate/recruit. Spend the next few months improving your communication skills - spelling, puncuation, and grammar.



Kieth....You kinda scare me! :eek:
haha :cool:
Can you please never look into my life...You might end up knowing me better than I know myself!! :p

[AWarr]

Hey, can we correct the public's grammar while in uniform??? I really COULD become the grammar police! :D The one I hate the most: Me and him went to the mall. AAAGGGHHH! :mad:

OH CRAP!!!!
Its a grammar Nazi!
I better start watching the way I use my grammar around here!

Hey Copp'r....
Have you ever read the book, "Eats, Shoots and Leaves?" Its a great book about how to correctly use grammar in a fun way, but whats REALLY great about it.....is that the author is a total grammar Nazi and REALLY gets ****ed off when she reads billboards, signs or other things with misspellings and grammar mistakes.

[FJDave]

You guys DO realize this is a dusty old thread revived for unknown reasons, right? :D

[RoadKingTrooper]

Wondering the same thing, but.......................