What Shotgun do you use for Home Defense??

[NYSJAILER2008]

I weld the Winchester Defender 1300 (8 shot) 12 Gauge 18" barrell, Loaded with Federal Tactical Low Recoil :eek: :eek: Buckshot 9 pellets.

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[FF Expl. Lt.]

Remington 870... :D

[LA DEP]

Benelli Super 90 w/Surefire forend light......staggered 00buck and 1oz slugs.....

SAY 'ELLO TO MY 'LIL FRIEND!!!:D

[Hoss 48]

I have Mossberg 12 ga pistol grip with heat shield, stainless. But for home defense I actually use a 357 mag. If I used a shotgun it would be the Mossberg.

[Till]

A Benelli Supernova tactical loaded with Hornady TAP 00buck.

18" barrel with extended mag tube, ghost ring sights, pistol grip stock, also have a Streamlight and Surefire weaponlight mounted on it via a picatinny rail adapter. Yes... two weaponlights.

Also have 5 extra rounds mounted on the stock... just in case the 8 rounds of buckshot already in the weapon aren't enough.

[farrellsm77]

Mossberg 590 with Ghost Ring Sights. Patrol Loaded with Hornady 00 Buckshot and sidesaddle loaded with Hornady SST Slugs. :D

[cbr600_kitty]

Benelli SuperNova....I think it has 3.5'' 4 shot in it right now

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/cbr600_kitty/DSC00495-1.jpg

[exdrip]

Rem 870...with a few of my own additions

[pulicords]

Benelli M1 Super 90 with #4 Buckshot in 3" magnum and slugs (got rid of the Surefire though-too heavy):

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u34/Pulicords/IMGP0472.jpg

[Blackdog F4i]

My shotgun is NOT my primary for home defense, however I do keep a 18.5" Remington 1100 handy.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/LoneWolfUSMC/100_2101.jpg

[Till]

Benelli SuperNova....I think it has 3.5'' 4 shot in it right now

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/cbr600_kitty/DSC00495-1.jpg

My man. http://forums.officer.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

What kind of tube extension you got on yours?

[fdkay]

My shotgun is NOT my primary for home defense, however I do keep a 18.5" Remington 1100 handy.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/LoneWolfUSMC/100_2101.jpg

That is a sweet classic right there. How's the reliability?
Have you tried their "tactical/practical" 1100?

[Blackdog F4i]

The reliability has been fine. I ran about a hundred shells ranging from Federal Tactical Slug and 00 Buck to Winchester #8 1/2 birdshot. The only thing it hiccuped on was some unidentifiable shotshells that I have floating around in the bag. It just failed to fully eject.

I have not tried the Tactical 1100. I plan on upgrading this 1100 with some of the Tactical's parts (shell carrier and operating handle). I just really like the classic look. I have since refinished the stocks with a Tung Oil finish and touched up the bare spots on the receiver. I plan on getting some new pics soon.

[Sgt. Slaughter]

I use a Mossberg 500 Persuader.

http://www.mossberg.com/images/products/SA/500PERSUADERCRUISER/50579.jpg

[Surf]

At home I use a Benelli M3 and a Remington 870, both loaded with 00. My work shotgun is a 14" barreled M1 Super with a pistol grip short stock and surefire fore end.

Honestly, I am not a big fan of shotguns without stocks or pistol grip forends. They look good in the movies however. ;)

[zeplin]

I use a Mossberg 500 Persuader.

http://www.mossberg.com/images/products/SA/500PERSUADERCRUISER/50579.jpg

Ditto

[GGG]

My man. http://forums.officer.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

What kind of tube extension you got on yours?


Uhm, I think she is not a he, but probably a standard Benelli extension.

I have a Benelli M1 Tactical with a SureFire forend, but prefer my M4 for room clearing.

[JasperST]

I have a Mossberg 500 that was my first firearm purchase maybe 15 years ago. I have been thinking about upgrading and yesterday went to Cabelas. They had a Mossberg 590 that looked tempting w/ 20" barrel and heat shield.

The sales guy was just retired from the Army, said he did 2 years in Iraq and Mossbergs were what they use since they take so much more abuse. Now I admire anyone that serves, especially in a war zone, I got a bit annoyed after he mentioned Iraq about the tenth time. I wanted to see a Remington 870 and he asked why. I said that I see many in LE that speak highly of them and he responded with "well, they just give out speeding tickets and don't get into fire fights but that's what we do all day.":eek:

They did have an Express model 870 but it didn't look to be better made than my 500 so I held off for now. I won't be going back to Cabelas if I do get one though.

[fdkay]

There is a reason that the military mainly carries the mossberg. They are the cheapest. They work, as do the 870's.
I prefer the 870, but that is a personal preference. The 870 express magnum (I have one) is a direct competitor to the mossberg 500. They went cheap on some of the parts and the wood is very plain. They work very well.
One thing I really like about the mossberg is the safety is absolutely ambidextrous.
But as in all things sourced to the military, lowest bidder wins every time.
There ARE 870's in military service and you can even find a few Ithica's.

[Sgt. Slaughter]

Also Benelli's. The Marine Corps used to use the Mossberg and switched to the Benelli M4. I would assume this model was NOT cheap. :D

[unc25]

Mossberg 590 20" barrel w/Heat Shield
staggered Federal low recoil 00 buck and Federal low recoil slugs

[Sgt. Slaughter]

At home I use a Benelli M3....

How's that "convertible" gun working out for you?

[Blackdog F4i]

I wanted to see a Remington 870 and he asked why. I said that I see many in LE that speak highly of them and he responded with "well, they just give out speeding tickets and don't get into fire fights but that's what we do all day.":eek:

You know I hate to point fingers, but that sounds like a statement that would be made by your typical Admin Pogue who feels the need to inflate what he did in country.

The Marine Corps did/does use Mossberg 590's. They also have 870's and when I left service we even had some Winchester's still in the rack. I never saw them out of the Armory, but they were there. We were attempting to talk the Battalion Commander into letting us check them out instead of our M9's for patrol work. I know nothing about the Benelli other than I would love to own a M3 Super 90.

I prefer the 870. It's what I carry for work in my "ticket writing" capacity in addition to my M4. If I was going to a "firefight" the shotgun would not be my choice. However for vehicle takedowns either will work fine when loaded with the appropriate shells.

Find someone with a well worn version of both and give them a try. The real tell is how they feel after a couple thousand rounds have gone through them. Pumps smooth out quite a bit and feel really good. Police turn in guns are great deals and there are a ton of police turn in 870's out there.

My work 870 is a 18" Wingmaster that was used by the Illinois Highway Patrol before it was sold off. The dealer replaced the guts and upgraded the feed system to current spec. I installed a Hogue youth/LE stock set, Wilson +2 tube and MMC ghost rings. The only thing left that I would like to do to it is to add a Surefire Forend and a couple of shotgun classes.

[Surf]

How's that "convertible" gun working out for you?I really like the gun. In its semi auto mode it performs exactly like an M1 or what you expect from a Benelli. With the fore end "unlocked" the pump works as advertised to shoot low recoil or LL rounds. However you need to be sure the fore end is positively positioned all the way forward and the locking lug is secure or the rifle will not feed and function properly as a semi auto. Of course this is a seemingly no brainer but it until you get used to switching between the 2 modes of fire, it can create an issue if you are not aware of this.

I picked up the M3 as I got it for a steal from a person who had too much money and little shooting knowledge about inertia driven shotguns. They had a very limp shooting stance and a weak shoulder which caused them failures to feed. I explained the problem to the guy, but he insisted on just selling the weapon. I think it was embarrassment? So he sold it to me almost NIB for $400. I have put a few hundred rounds through it and it works like a charm and not one single failure of any sort, just like you expect from a Benelli.

When I leave my division and have to turn in my issued M1, this M3 will hit the road with me, but for now I sleep with it under the pillow so to speak. ;)

Oh, I should add that my dream shotgun would be the Benelli M4 with the factory adjustable telescoping stock.

[Sgt. Slaughter]

Holy crap! $400 is a SMOKIN' deal! What a steal....

I've always wanted a semi-auto shotgun, but figured I'd get stuck with the "tactical" loads which wouldn't cycle it properly.

[merlin436]

Not being one who subscribes to the "Viagra" theory of home defense weapons and having to consider women and pre-teens into the mixture, here's my current choice:

http://www.mossberg.com/images/products/SA/HS410/50359.jpg

Loaded with 3" 5 pellet 000 Buck. 7+1 in the tube.

[Blackdog F4i]

I've always wanted a semi-auto shotgun, but figured I'd get stuck with the "tactical" loads which wouldn't cycle it properly.

FWIW, my 1100 cycles just fine with Federal Tactical "reduced recoil" Buck and Slugs. I don't know if an inertia gun would run the same.

[cbuckle]

870 boomstick for me.

anybody have any experience with the FN tactical? pros and cons? comparison to a clone (win 1300)?

[NORCOCOP]

Anyone with experience with the Saiga 12's. I like the idea of a magazine fed 12 gauge, maybe a single drum with 20 rounds? But I question the magazines ability to reliably feed the shells. I know they use them in Russia a lot, and the AK platform is pretty awsome. Obiously it is a shotty so the accuracy thing is not really too much of an issue. I am saving up just in case the wrong guy is elected and it looks like a ban will be placed. If any one has any experience please share.

[GGG]

Not being one who subscribes to the "Viagra" theory of home defense weapons and having to consider women and pre-teens into the mixture, here's my current choice:

http://www.mossberg.com/images/products/SA/HS410/50359.jpg

Loaded with 3" 5 pellet 000 Buck. 7+1 in the tube.



I often suggest a .410 for home defense when small stature shooters are in the equation. Up to 10yds or so, it has more energy than a .357 so I find it very amusing that the same people who say a .410 is not enough gun will say a .357mag is plenty. ;)

I don't know about the vertical foregrip on a straight stock tho, seems like it would be more awkward than a regular fore end.

[jsc0288]

I weld the Winchester Defender 1300 (8 shot) 12 Gauge 18" barrell, Loaded with Federal Tactical Low Recoil :eek: :eek: Buckshot 9 pellets.

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I use the same thing, except I load it with the aquilla 12 gauge rounds. They are half the size of regular 12 gauge rounds, that way I get 16 rounds instead of 8. I startedout with the first 3 buck shot and then all the rest are slugs.

[zeplin]

I use the same thing, except I load it with the aquilla 12 gauge rounds. They are half the size of regular 12 gauge rounds, that way I get 16 rounds instead of 8. I startedout with the first 3 buck shot and then all the rest are slugs.

I never heard of such. Where do you get those? and how do they compare to standard 12ga?

[GGG]

I never heard of such. Where do you get those? and how do they compare to standard 12ga?

I have seen them for sale, but not in action. I imagine they just removed the shot buffer. So it would have the same power, but who knows how well it would pattern. I am just guessing that is how they cut them down to half the size.

[jsc0288]

I believe they go 1250fps, both slugs and buckshot. The buckshot group pretty good and the slugs have enough power to take out a large boar. What I like about them is they won't penatrate as many walls as a full size 12G round. Recoil is great and you can carry a lot more. I did read somewhere that they don't work well in mossbergs, or remingtons, but they do work great in the win 1300. I've had no problems in mine. check natchez hunting supply or cheaper then dirt.com. They are around 15.00 a box for 20. They also come in #7 bird shot. pretty cool stuff check it out.

[zeplin]

I did read somewhere that they don't work well in mossbergs...

Well I'm screwed if that's the case. I'll check on them anyway. It would be pretty cool to have double capacity.:D Thanks!!!

[Blackdog F4i]

1250fps is close to the reduced recoil stuff that we use. I may have to check into it. That might be the ticket for a SBS.

[Till]

Is the Remington Express 00 buck a decent load for defensive purposes? Does it throw a fairly tight pattern?

[Sgt. Slaughter]

Yeah, it should be pretty tight. Is it a Wingmaster?

You can always tell how tight the pattern is by taking it to the range and shooting at a paper plate from 15 yards. Divide it into quadrants and you can see where most of your shot goes. If you need to adjust it because you don't think it's throwing correctly, take it to a gunsmith. Most likely, unless you're seeing large gaps in the shot pattern, it'll be fine.

[NYSJAILER2008]

I use the same thing, except I load it with the aquilla 12 gauge rounds. They are half the size of regular 12 gauge rounds, that way I get 16 rounds instead of 8. I startedout with the first 3 buck shot and then all the rest are slugs.
OH goody I must check these rounds out

[GGG]

Is the Remington Express 00 buck a decent load for defensive purposes? Does it throw a fairly tight pattern?

Just came back from the range where we have switched from Remington to Federal Power Shok. From a 14" modified choke barrel, everything was mostly in one hole from 7yds, and spread about 6" from 15yds. Trying to count the scores on the 7 yd target you basically looked for the number of big ragged holes, you could not count individual pellets.

Before, we could not really keep all the pellets on target from 25yds, with this stuff it should not be a problem. Our shotgun course is 15yds and in, so I have not shot it yet farther out, but I plan on doing some testing with it.

[Till]

There's no choke in my Benelli.
And I'm not really looking for ammunition that's going to throw a very tight pattern, anyway.

[Rifleguy]

Anyone with experience with the Saiga 12's. I like the idea of a magazine fed 12 gauge, maybe a single drum with 20 rounds? But I question the magazines ability to reliably feed the shells. I know they use them in Russia a lot, and the AK platform is pretty awsome. Obiously it is a shotty so the accuracy thing is not really too much of an issue. I am saving up just in case the wrong guy is elected and it looks like a ban will be placed. If any one has any experience please share.

Check the Saiga board. The S-12 is extremely popular and respected.

[jsc0288]

I often suggest a .410 for home defense when small stature shooters are in the equation. Up to 10yds or so, it has more energy than a .357 so I find it very amusing that the same people who say a .410 is not enough gun will say a .357mag is plenty. ;)

I don't know about the vertical foregrip on a straight stock tho, seems like it would be more awkward than a regular fore end.

I had a pistol griped 410, but ammo is more exp then 12 gauge.

[ODSigma40]

You know I hate to point fingers, but that sounds like a statement that would be made by your typical Admin Pogue who feels the need to inflate what he did in country.

The Marine Corps did/does use Mossberg 590's. They also have 870's and when I left service we even had some Winchester's still in the rack. I never saw them out of the Armory, but they were there. We were attempting to talk the Battalion Commander into letting us check them out instead of our M9's for patrol work. I know nothing about the Benelli other than I would love to own a M3 Super 90.


I carried the Benelli for awhile. Really nice. Would love to own one as well.

[merlin436]

I had a pistol griped 410, but ammo is more exp then 12 gauge.

I can get Winchester 3" 000 buck for the .410 for about $5.50 a 5-round box.
Most 12 gauge 00 buck loaded 5 to a box I've seen are around that...maybe a hair cheaper.

[merlin436]

I often suggest a .410 for home defense when small stature shooters are in the equation. Up to 10yds or so, it has more energy than a .357 so I find it very amusing that the same people who say a .410 is not enough gun will say a .357mag is plenty. ;)

I don't know about the vertical foregrip on a straight stock tho, seems like it would be more awkward than a regular fore end.

I'm not all that fond of the foregrip myself. My mother and 12 year-old nephew like it though...and since the gun was more or less bought for them, it stays.

[jsc0288]

I can get Winchester 3" 000 buck for the .410 for about $5.50 a 5-round box.
Most 12 gauge 00 buck loaded 5 to a box I've seen are around that...maybe a hair cheaper.

That's a great price. Much more here though. Probably double that amount..
Did you see that new handgun the Judge from Taurus. You can load it with the 45 Long Colt or the 410. Now that's a nice home gun. Spray them in the face with a little bird shot, and the dump a few slugs in their chest.