ATTN Long Beach Coppers

[Garbage Man]

I like to help people on this site fulfill their dreams of becoming the police. Many of the people I have been PM'ing are people with no police experience. With the economy getting tight many agencies are getting tougher in hiring and are looking for experience.

I have been advising some of these people to try LBPD because they used to prefer non experienced applicants. But my information is from when I left about 15 years ago, and I wasn’t a PD employee then just a city employee, (One of the many specialty agencies in the city) I only knew what I was told by the coppers I worked with, so I cant be sure I am correct on this. Does LBPD still have the belief that they want "Well rounded" people with experience outside of Police work? They used to say "We have our own academy we will teach you how to be a cop. We want to know you can relate to the community." Do they still?

Another nice thing is the FTO program was 6 months as opposed to 3 here in the OC. I know a lot of applicants want the quickest possible FTO program but going from straight civvies to copper in 3 months is almost impossible. Having twice as long to learn the job is a plus they will come to appreciate.

[hbliam]

I like to help people on this site fulfill their dreams of becoming the police. Many of the people I have been PM'ing are people with no police experience. With the economy getting tight many agencies are getting tougher in hiring and are looking for experience.

I have been advising some of these people to try LBPD because they used to prefer non experienced applicants. But my information is from when I left about 15 years ago, and I wasn’t a PD employee then just a city employee, (One of the many specialty agencies in the city) I only knew what I was told by the coppers I worked with, so I cant be sure I am correct on this. Does LBPD still have the belief that they want "Well rounded" people with experience outside of Police work? They used to say "We have our own academy we will teach you how to be a cop. We want to know you can relate to the community." Do they still?

Another nice thing is the FTO program was 6 months as opposed to 3 here in the OC. I know a lot of applicants want the quickest possible FTO program but going from straight civvies to copper in 3 months is almost impossible. Having twice as long to learn the job is a plus they will come to appreciate.

Long Beach FTO is 12 months and has been for at least the last ten years.

Long Beach hires from all walks of life but having done something to prepare yourself for police work is a step up in selections.

They are taking apps until 10-31 for the next class in June.

[Garbage Man]

Long Beach FTO is 12 months and has been for at least the last ten years.

Long Beach hires from all walks of life but having done something to prepare yourself for police work is a step up in selections.

They are taking apps until 10-31 for the next class in June.

You know I thought it was 12 months but then as I was typing I thought , no it cant be that long. 6 months sounded more likely. Thats perfect for those without police experience because 3 months is just too short.

Those people on this site who havent any prior expeerince really ought to take a serious look at LBPD, I know you think right now that you wont be the guy who needs 12 months of training (and actualy that might be overkill) but I have seen for too many people wash out of training.

[Copp'rPenny]

To what academy does LBPD send their recruits? They have an interesting PAT. It looks fun. :)

[pulicords]

The last I heard, Long Beach had it's own academy.

[IMachU]

They have their own academy

[Copp'rPenny]

Thanks! Now let's hope they don't have a hiring freeze between now and June. ;)

[hbliam]

To what academy does LBPD send their recruits? They have an interesting PAT. It looks fun. :)

They have their own academy.

And yes, the obstacle course, pushups, and 1.5 mile timed run is "fun".

[hbliam]

You know I thought it was 12 months but then as I was typing I thought , no it cant be that long. 6 months sounded more likely. Thats perfect for those without police experience because 3 months is just too short.

Those people on this site who havent any prior expeerince really ought to take a serious look at LBPD, I know you think right now that you wont be the guy who needs 12 months of training (and actualy that might be overkill) but I have seen for too many people wash out of training.


Months 1-4 of FTO are full on, intensive, daily evals, FTO training. Month 5 it's back to your month 1 FTO for role reversal. Prove that you can do the job on your own and you go to phase 3, which is still with an FTO but with weekly evals. After that 7 months is up, your either on your own or you can team up with a classmate if you want.

I agree that this should be the minimum. I hear of some OC agencies kicking guys loose in 3-4 months. Irresponsible IMO. Just cause the guy knows the way to the call doesn't mean he knows how to handle it.

[Up_On_Base]

I agree that this should be the minimum. I hear of some OC agencies kicking guys loose in 3-4 months. Irresponsible IMO. Just cause the guy knows the way to the call doesn't mean he knows how to handle it.

Question - Doesn't CHP FTO/Break In Phase only last a couple of weeks? Could be wrong, but thought I read that somewhere.

I was an officer in DC, it took me about a year to "get it". FTO is a great bridge from training to real life.

[Garbage Man]

Months 1-4 of FTO are full on, intensive, daily evals, FTO training. Month 5 it's back to your month 1 FTO for role reversal. Prove that you can do the job on your own and you go to phase 3, which is still with an FTO but with weekly evals. After that 7 months is up, your either on your own or you can team up with a classmate if you want.

I agree that this should be the minimum. I hear of some OC agencies kicking guys loose in 3-4 months. Irresponsible IMO. Just cause the guy knows the way to the call doesn't mean he knows how to handle it.

That kind of sounds like 7 months of training. Riding with a classmate? 7 months is still better than 3 though.

As for the OC system its fine when you use a farm system like most OC agencies do when you are a reserve first for a while or something but for an accountant or someone who has only watched cops on TV, you have to be a real quick study.

I know a lot of you guys are thinking, Like I once thought,"the heck with that I want to be on my own ASAP." Take it from me, no you dont. Besides a shorter FTO program doesnt always mean a shorter time to solo patrol, for many its a shorter time to unemployment.

[hbliam]

That kind of sounds like 7 months of training. Riding with a classmate? 7 months is still better than 3 though.



Huh?

Months 1-4: with FTO getting daily evals, Month 5: role reversal with FTO, months 6-12: with FTO getting weekly evals. = 12 months with an FTO.

Riding with a classmate is after you are both off probation and the year long FTO program.

[Garbage Man]

Huh?

Months 1-4: with FTO getting daily evals, Month 5: role reversal with FTO, months 6-12: with FTO getting weekly evals. = 12 months with an FTO.

Riding with a classmate is after you are both off probation and the year long FTO program.

After that 7 months is up, your either on your own or you can team up with a classmate if you want.

This is what I was confused by but I see now what you were saying, that 7 months after the 5 months so 5+7 = 12..got it.

So the point is really that LBPD is the hot ticket for those without prior experience.

[hbliam]

After that 7 months is up, your either on your own or you can team up with a classmate if you want.

This is what I was confused by but I see now what you were saying, that 7 months after the 5 months so 5+7 = 12..got it.

So the point is really that LBPD is the hot ticket for those without prior experience.

or LAPD. Greater chance you'll get hired there.

[Copp'rPenny]

How many people do they expect to put through to the academy? It looks like they're expecting a big crowd in the initial phases.

[hbliam]

How many people do they expect to put through to the academy? It looks like they're expecting a big crowd in the initial phases.


They have been putting 30-50 though the last few classes. I'm sure they will have more candidates then usual with the economy being what it is.

[mcguire4]

Excellent Department...I have two older bros who work there....I'd love to work for 'em, but I married a Texan....!!

[etamante]

but I married a Texan....!!

Best thing you ever couldve done.:D

[mcguire4]

Best thing you ever couldve done.:D

Thats what she says.....DAILY.....LOL!!!

[hbliam]

Excellent Department...I have two older bros who work there....I'd love to work for 'em, but I married a Texan....!!


I married one too. Differance is...I wear the pants.:D

[mcguire4]

I married one too. Differance is...I wear the pants.:D

Uh...thats D-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-c-e, and good for you!:D

[hbliam]

Uh...thats D-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-c-e, and good for you!:D

At my house I spell it any way I like. :)

[Mtoledo]

Differance is french, maybe Hbliam is part french.

[IMachU]

Differance is french, maybe Hbliam is part french.

That would explain a lot :D

[Choop]

Months 1-4 of FTO are full on, intensive, daily evals, FTO training. Month 5 it's back to your month 1 FTO for role reversal. Prove that you can do the job on your own and you go to phase 3, which is still with an FTO but with weekly evals. After that 7 months is up, your either on your own or you can team up with a classmate if you want.

I agree that this should be the minimum. I hear of some OC agencies kicking guys loose in 3-4 months. Irresponsible IMO. Just cause the guy knows the way to the call doesn't mean he knows how to handle it.

So you don't ever ride with a Sgt.? I saw that the depts. on "Rookies" on A&E require that at the end but I don't know how valid it is to the LBPD.

I sent my app in on Tuesday, I'm excited to experience the process!!

[cruz0311]

Those are different states, they're style of policing is pretty different to west coast style. Most FTO training programs here in Cali are about six months long and you switch TO's after some point in your training, but I have never heard of anyone getting evaled by a SGT.

Also keep in mind that its on TV, they probably edit a bunch of stuff to make it good for ratings, I've watched the show and find it interesting and entertaining. Good luck LBPD is a tough dept. to get into but I've heard good things about them.

[hbliam]

So you don't ever ride with a Sgt.? I saw that the depts. on "Rookies" on A&E require that at the end but I don't know how valid it is to the LBPD.

I sent my app in on Tuesday, I'm excited to experience the process!!


No you don't. Don't use the tv show Rookies as an indicator of what will happen. Most of those recuits would not make it here in so cal.

[Copp'rPenny]

Yesterday, I got the letter approving me to take the written and video test next Saturday. Anyone know what the video portion is about? I've tested with a lot of agencies, but none had a video component. Is it a memory test? Or maybe it runs scenarios? Is it only a few questions? What should we applicants expect?

[hbliam]

Yesterday, I got the letter approving me to take the written and video test next Saturday. Anyone know what the video portion is about? I've tested with a lot of agencies, but none had a video component. Is it a memory test? Or maybe it runs scenarios? Is it only a few questions? What should we applicants expect?


It's scenarios. That's about all I can tell you. And there is a memory portion on the written.

[Copp'rPenny]

Thank you. That is good enough! :)

[nordy racer]

Yesterday, I got the letter approving me to take the written and video test next Saturday. Anyone know what the video portion is about? I've tested with a lot of agencies, but none had a video component. Is it a memory test? Or maybe it runs scenarios? Is it only a few questions? What should we applicants expect?

have you received any info back on if you passed the written? i haven't :( and i think the first fit test is Nov 8, but i think they have 3 testing dates..

[Copp'rPenny]

When I wrote "next Saturday," I was referring to Nov. 8. So I haven't taken the written yet. How long did they say it would take to get back to you with the results?

[nordy racer]

When I wrote "next Saturday," I was referring to Nov. 8. So I haven't taken the written yet. How long did they say it would take to get back to you with the results?

they really didn't say.. they just passed out a sheet of paper that informs you on what you needed to start collecting (ie: credit report, SS card, College paperwork and so on) so that your background will go smoothly.

[Copp'rPenny]

OK, I went tonight. They said that the results should be coming in early December, and if you don't have the results by Dec. 31, call. The 6-hour orientation/PATs are scheduled for Jan. 3, 4 and 5. Hope that helps!

[nordy racer]

OK, I went tonight. They said that the results should be coming in early December, and if you don't have the results by Dec. 31, call. The 6-hour orientation/PATs are scheduled for Jan. 3, 4 and 5. Hope that helps!

good luck.. i heard the class is going to start about late summer maybe..

[Copp'rPenny]

Have you gotten word back about your score already?

[nordy racer]

Have you gotten word back about your score already?

nope............

[hektor007]

how long is the written test?
is it like other POST test?

[Choop]

how long is the written test?
is it like other POST test?

That's an excellent question, I'd love to know as well.

I attended an orientation back on Oct. 25th at the Academy on Carson and they went through the first two tests fairly thoroughly. The written part is above-basic English comprehension and the video scenario portion is just that. A number of various videos are shown that are about 30 seconds to a minute in length and you are charged with answering a few questions.

I submitted my app a few days before the Oct. 31st deadline and was told that if I don't hear back from someone by 11/14 to phone the recruitment department for my test date. The last two tests are next week so I figure I'll be testing either next Tuesday or Thursday!! Does anyone have any tips?

Also I plan on attending the PAT practice session in Dec. has anyone done it before? They said the mile and a half run is in El Dorado Park. does anyone know the course so I could go run it on my own a few times?

I know real life isn't like tv shows but is the Academy anything like "The Academy"?

Sorry about all the question but I'm really excited and VERY NERVOUS!! :o

[Copp'rPenny]

They tell us not to discuss the contents of the tests. I think it's OK to say that the written tests memory, grammar and reading comprehension. Then the last part is a section that is more of a personality test. Oceanside and Carlsbad PDs use the same test.

[Choop]

Thanks Copp'r,

Would you be willing to mention if there is something I should specifically be studying prior to the test or is it pretty straight forward as long as you're a semi-lucid, breathing human being? ;)

Also for anyone that has been through the LBPD Academy should I be training SUPER HARD or is running a mile 4 times per week and doing 100 pu's per day about adequate?

[Copp'rPenny]

No, there's really nothing to study. They did mention at the test that we should be running A LOT, and that it is a running academy. I would say 1 mile 4xs a week is not enough. Depending on the week, I do 12-20 miles, and I worry it's not enough (it probably is, but I want to pick up more speed). And to build up your legs, I would vary your runs. Do hills one day, sprints another, a nice long endurance run yet another day. Good luck! Maybe we will both make it. :)

[Choop]

Thanks. I guess I'll step it up on the running, I feel like I'm entering the MCRD!! :) I'd rather be in shape... than sorry though!!

We'll have to keep this thread updated with our progress and yes, hopefully I'll see you in June!!

[mike9817]

Hey guys, checking in from Chicago. I got my letter today to be there on the 18th, but I don't know if I can get a flight/hotel out there by then that I can afford. I'm gonna try my hardest, maybe I'll see one of you guys

[COJO2]

what's your height/weight Copp'rPenny?

[Choop]

Wow you're coming from Chi-Town, that's cool!! Well at the very least you'll enjoy the weather.

I'd try to get a room at the Courtyard Marriott where the test is being held and Jet Blue flies directly into Long Beach from O'hare for pretty cheap. You should be able to do the whole thing for under $500.

It's too bad they're not letting us out for lunch or I'd take you guys down the street to Buono's for some great pizza!!

-- C

[Copp'rPenny]

WOW, you're not supposed to ask a woman that! :D If you were at the same test, I was the redhead (w/ academy bun) and a suit. That should make me easier to remember. Most of the women were in jeans.

[mike9817]

Wow you're coming from Chi-Town, that's cool!! Well at the very least you'll enjoy the weather.

I'd try to get a room at the Courtyard Marriott where the test is being held and Jet Blue flies directly into Long Beach from O'hare for pretty cheap. You should be able to do the whole thing for under $500.

It's too bad they're not letting us out for lunch or I'd take you guys down the street to Buono's for some great pizza!!

-- C

I'm going to call the number on the letter I got, I hope there's another test date I can push it back to. Even testing on Thursday would be a huge help, and thanks for the info on the hotel/airfare.. it is much appreciated and I will be looking into it :)

As for coming from Chicago, my sister currently lives in oceanside and I have other family that is moving out there as well. I've visited four times and everytime I go I never want to leave, it just feels like home.

[Choop]

I believe the last test date for this round is actually the 20th which is Thursday. I don't know for sure but I doubt they'll have a problem with you pushing it back 2 days, and then you can spend a nice 4 day weekend out here or maybe stay for Thanksgiving!!

ps: Luckily you're going to miss the 7.8 earthquake scheduled to hit in 34 minutes. (Statewide earthquake drill). ;)

-- C

[nordy racer]

got the letter stating i can come to the next step on Nov 23rd..

[Choop]

got the letter stating i can come to the next step on Nov 23rd..

Cool, have you done the practice PAT yet? If so can you tell me a bit about it?

The Sargent I met with said that the mile and a half run is through El Dorado park and I'd like to start practicing running the exact course. It's always MUCH easier to run when you know the course and how much further you have to go!! :D

[nordy racer]

Cool, have you done the practice PAT yet? If so can you tell me a bit about it?

The Sargent I met with said that the mile and a half run is through El Dorado park and I'd like to start practicing running the exact course. It's always MUCH easier to run when you know the course and how much further you have to go!! :D

i haven't preformed the practice PAT. the only thing to worry about is the wall, and i think that should be easy. i just have been focusing on running and push-ups..

[Choop]

So, I'm taking the written/video test tomorrow and am wondering what I should wear. I read that someone wore a suit but I think we're supposed to be there for 5 hours or so. Khaki's and a nice polo and vest? Or do I NEED to wear a suit?

The Sgt. that ran our orientation a few weeks back said that they don't start "looking at you", what you wear, do, etc. until you come for the PAT. Does anyone have any insight into this?

Thanks,
-- C

[nordy racer]

i had on a polo shirt and khakis..

[Choop]

Polo and khakis it is then.

A few more questions:

The letter said that it's about 5 hours of testing. Is that how long it actually took or was it longer/shorter?

Did you notice anyone in attendance from the LBPD or was the whole thing done by the civil service department?

Thanks and sorry for all the questions, I'm always full of them when I get nervous....lol!!

-- C

[nordy racer]

Polo and khakis it is then.

A few more questions:

The letter said that it's about 5 hours of testing. Is that how long it actually took or was it longer/shorter?

Did you notice anyone in attendance from the LBPD or was the whole thing done by the civil service department?

Thanks and sorry for all the questions, I'm always full of them when I get nervous....lol!!

-- C


Its all on your speed after the first part (video based which is about 90 minutes).. i was there for about 3 1/2 to 4 hours..

Yes, LBPD was there outside while we were waiting to go in. The commander was coming around asking about our job history and how long we lived in the area.

[Choop]

Gotcha. So the first part is the 90 minute video portion and then the English part is at your own speed.

I remember someone mentioned that they said not give any of the specific questions away but could you tell me how many questions there were for the video portion and how many for the other portion?

I also figure that I'll get to the door about 30 minutes early. Did they let you in or do you have to wait outside until 12:30?

Thanks,
-- Chris

[Copp'rPenny]

I waited outside. There were 56 scenario questions and 158 (not sure if this is precise, but it's close) written questions, some of which are personality assessment questions. Good luck!

And a question about the PAT. Why do they judge your attire at a PAT? And if this is true, what beyond showing up in hole-free, appropriate gym clothes should we wear?

[Choop]

I waited outside. There were 56 scenario questions and 158 (not sure if this is precise, but it's close) written questions, some of which are personality assessment questions. Good luck!

And a question about the PAT. Why do they judge your attire at a PAT? And if this is true, what beyond showing up in hole-free, appropriate gym clothes should we wear?

Thanks Copp'r. Was there an essay that you had to write as well? I noticed that the practice test on the California POST website has a section about an essay prompt.

As for the PAT attire I was told the following at the orientation that I attended back at the end of Oct. The Sgt. said that you should show up in "appropriate work-out attire". She said no bare mid-drifts for the ladies or boobs hanging out. Standard gym/work-out shorts and a non-revealing t-shirt or tank-top. "No sports-bra only" for the ladies. She also said that you should not have any questionable slogans on your clothing and gave the example of showing up with a shirt that says that you want to be a fire fighter. She said if you do that and the chief is in attendance he WILL call you on it!! She also said everything you bring is subject to scrutiny and that they understand if you can't afford a brand new car but the the one you do have should be clean, well kept, and free from any "questionable" bumper stickers or signage.

[Choop]

Just got back from the test, and a mile run with the dog and I'm TIRED!! That test was quite an experience and a bit harder or maybe just more convoluted than I expected.

I hope I did well and will see you guys in a month or so at the PAT!!

.... FINGERS CROSSED!!

[nordy racer]

so Choop & Copp'r.. any updates?

i did the PAT last weekend and just had the panel interview & a quick chat with 2 background investigators yesterday.. i passed :).. the next step is next week for the poly and fingerprinting...

[AWarr]

Just got back from the test, and a mile run with the dog and I'm TIRED!! That test was quite an experience and a bit harder or maybe just more convoluted than I expected.

I hope I did well and will see you guys in a month or so at the PAT!!

.... FINGERS CROSSED!!

I must admit, that test was quite looooooong!
I enjoyed the video based question, that is, until we reached question number 1 billion...after that, I pretty much suffered through the last 10 hours of the video questions.

Have you guys heard anything from them yet? I havent, but I was told they would start sending out letters sometime in mid-december.

[Copp'rPenny]

Haven't heard a thing. Still hoping for the best!

[Choop]

Haven't heard anything yet either. I'm a bit worried about the PAT, 12 minutes is going to be tough for me. :(

[AWarr]

Called Today (12/12/08) to check on my statues.

Said that rejection letters were sent out yesterday, and letters to those who passed with be sent out sometime next week.

[hbliam]

Kinda thinking that academy class you guys are shooting for may be put on hold...


LB budget faces more cuts
REVENUE: $15.7 million gap comes as Police Department is already cut to `flesh and bone.'
By Paul Eakins, Staff Writer
Posted: 12/11/2008 10:38:38 PM PST


LONG BEACH - Just two and a half months after a pared-down city budget went into effect, city officials are planning even more cuts as they brace for an estimated $15.7 million general fund revenue shortfall.

City Manager Pat West sent a memo to his department heads Wednesday that asks them to cut 1 to 3 percent of their budgets. Nearly every city department had cut up to 10 percent of its budget already to help balance a deficit the city had faced as it began the new fiscal year Oct. 1.

The heads of some city departments said Thursday that they have little left to cut without significantly reducing services and programs. Police Chief Anthony Batts said the Police Department has been cut down to "flesh and bone" and that sworn officers, not just civilian staff, may have to be laid off if he is forced to reduce his budget.

West and other top city brass said Thursday that the budget reductions are unavoidable.

"Our revenues are not coming in at what we projected because of what's going on ... nationally and within the economy," Assistant City Manager Suzanne Frick said.

Finance Director Lori Ann Farrell said the city's expected revenue decline is mainly caused by the decline in oil prices, which have dropped from almost $150 per barrel a few months ago to a recent low of $40 a week ago. Long Beach receives a percentage of oil revenue from the massive oil fields below city streets.

City officials had budgeted revenue based on oil prices of $85 per barrel.
The total expected revenue loss includes $9.5million from oil, $2.9 million from sales tax, $1.5 million from vehicle license fees and $1.3 million from property taxes, Farrell said.

City officials said they are also concerned about the state borrowing funding from cities as it faces what Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has warned may become a budget "Armageddon."

In addition to the general fund, the city's Tidelands Fund, which must be used for projects in the coastal zone, is expected to lose $13.1 million from the oil revenue decline, West's memo says.

Budget-balancing strategy

Farrell said the cuts and other plans outlined in the memo are the second part of a budget strategy that began with cost-cutting measures announced in October. Together, the two components will save the city about $20 million, she said.

"We're giving ourselves a little room in case the state has any further take-aways and in case oil continues to decline or stay at today's level," Farrell said.

About $6 million of the budget reductions will come from the city's $404 million general fund, which pays for services including police and fire, libraries, parks and recreation, and street repair.

Other city funds are largely self-sustaining with their own revenue sources, such as the Harbor, Water and Health departments.The city can't legally draw on these funds for the general fund.

Another $300,000 can be saved if elected officials, such as the City Council, the mayor and the city attorney, also cut their budgets, as West requests in the memo.

In addition to those reductions, the new budget-balancing measures include a "hard hiring freeze" during which West must approve any new, and only essential, hires; city manager approval of department contracts more than $25,000, which is half of the current $50,000 limit; and the delay of $11.6 million in state-funded infrastructure projects, including street and sidewalk repairs, because of the risk that the state may hold back that money.

Previously announced policies that were outlined in the October memo, some of which are already being implemented, are putting one-time revenues into a budget stabilization fund, including a $6 million settlement with Sempra Energy; halting all one-time expenses; improving efficiency; exploring a mandatory five-day employee furlough; and maintaining a freeze on hiring management, out-of-state travel and sponsoring tables at community events.

Those measures will save the other $14 million, Farrell said.

In the meantime, the city plans to have monthly Budget Oversight Committee meetings and council study sessions, officials said.

"Our goal is to keep the council and the community completely informed as to what's going on so there are no surprises for anyone," Frick said.

Effect on city services unclear

How exactly all of these cuts will affect city services is still unclear, officials said.

West said the city will continue the policy it had set over the summer's budget discussions of focusing on "core" services.

Batts, the police chief, said Thursday that while sworn officers always have been sacrosanct in budget cuts, that may no longer be feasible. His department had already reduced its civilian staff, cut the Police Athletic League and closed its substations, which are now manned by volunteers, he said.

"I don't know if police officers and dispatchers are off the table, to tell you the honest truth," Batts said.
City Prosecutor Thomas Reeves, who was the most vocal elected official opposed to cuts in his department this summer, said Thursday that his deputy prosecutors already are overworked.

"We are seeing an impact in my department from the cuts we've already taken, and that means there are areas that we would have pursued that we now aren't going to," Reeves said.

What that would mean is selective prosecution, letting some minor crimes be handled in civil court or with administrative fines, Reeves said.

In the Department of Parks, Recreation and Marine, further budget cuts will mean the end of some recreation programs, Director Phil Hester said.

[MT2658]

LBPD could probably save about $1.5 mil if they only hired academy grads or POST certified ofcrs in addition to cutting the FTO phase from 12 months to 6. All these depts that req new hires to attend their academy when they have already been through an academy (self-sponsored) are just wasting money they do not have. LAPD, Torrance, OCSD, CHP, Frisco, Oakland etc...

[Copp'rPenny]

Got the good-news letter today (whew!). Anyone else scheduled for the Jan. 4 orientation?

[Copp'rPenny]

BTW, what is the maximum passing time for the obstacle course, anyone know?

[AWarr]

Got the good-news letter today (whew!). Anyone else scheduled for the Jan. 4 orientation?

I got Saturday the 3rd.

[nordy racer]

took the poly and fingerprinting about 3 weeks ago and passed.. moving onto Backgrounds.. i'm meeting an investigator today at 8am..

Copp'r Penny what step are you at?

[Copp'rPenny]

Um, I have the orientation Jan. 4. :p :D

[Copp'rPenny]

Woo-hoo, I PASSED the PAT!!!! I was the only female this morning to pass. Was anyone else there? Even better, I came in first in my heat for the 1.5-mile run (which says more about the men in my heat than me, but I'll take it! :D)

[FJDave]

Way to go, Penny!! Good job!!

[AWarr]

I was sick, so I had to reschedule until next week :(

What kinds of things did they have you do Penny?
How long was the orientation?

[Copp'rPenny]

So funny you should say that. I FELT fine this morning, and thought I did well. But not long after the run, I was sitting on the planter, waiting to schedule my oral/BI interviews when I started sneezing. ...

I haven't stopped since. :(

I'll PM ya with the rest of the info. :)

[Choop]

As I said in PM congrats Penny!! I'm scheduled for next Saturday if anyone is keeping score....lol. I just got back from running and jumped the 5'10'' cement wall over here about 20 times today. Fingers crossed!!

-- C

[nordy racer]

congrads Penny.....

[COJO2]

As I said in PM congrats Penny!! I'm scheduled for next Saturday if anyone is keeping score....lol. I just got back from running and jumped the 5'10'' cement wall over here about 20 times today. Fingers crossed!!

-- C

hey choop.
i'm in LB too. where's this wall ur jumping? eldorado park?

i need in on that. let me know

[Choop]

Haha, well it took me forever to find one but there are a bunch of cement walls of varying heights behind an office park off Katella just past Los Alamitos Blvd. on the South side of the street right after you pass Madera's Steak House.

Ripped my arms up a bit but I know that I can get over a 5'10'' wall with minimal effort now.... lol.

[DOAcop38]

Long Beach FTO is 12 months and has been for at least the last ten years.

Long Beach hires from all walks of life but having done something to prepare yourself for police work is a step up in selections.

They are taking apps until 10-31 for the next class in June.

Long Beach has always been a popular dept to work for, and has NEVER had any issues with getting applicants ( tougher than larger LAPD to apply for); my advice( for an "off the street" applicant, not a lateral) is to apply around,particularly for the larger depts,even specialized depts( L.A. county PD, LAXPD, LAUSDPD,etc).Its alot different than when I came on nearly 2 decades ago- all you need is tha CA. Basic POST certificate, and you can go anywhere that will offer you a position. Take the first decent opening you can find, learn what you can. Expect stiff competition when you apply for the LBPD test coming up.....

[hbliam]

Haha, well it took me forever to find one but there are a bunch of cement walls of varying heights behind an office park off Katella just past Los Alamitos Blvd. on the South side of the street right after you pass Madera's Steak House.

Ripped my arms up a bit but I know that I can get over a 5'10'' wall with minimal effort now.... lol.

Just go to the academy, they will let you practice on the actual wall you will jump.

[hbliam]

Expect stiff competition when you apply for the LBPD test coming up.....

I'd expect a delay in the class being run as well.

[Copp'rPenny]

hbliam, you sure make it hard to be in denial! (she says crossing her fingers and saying a prayer)

[nordy racer]

met with my BI yesterday for a second time and he cleared me :).. next will be the written Psyc on the 7th..

[cl1212]

met with my BI yesterday for a second time and he cleared me :).. next will be the written Psyc on the 7th..

you met with the Bi twice? I was wondering why Twice?

[cl1212]

My Bi was a nightmare, I felt like less than a man after I was done. I only have BK on my backround and they made is seem like I would not make it through, I am hoping it was only a test to see if I would quit or not.



passed written
passed PAT
passed oral
BI???
Poly next on 2-2-2009

[nordy racer]

you met with the Bi twice? I was wondering why Twice?

the first time was down at his office, the next was when he stopped out at my house to review what he found out..

he was getting on me about my high school grades back in 1991, stating that i couldn't handle the stress.. i wouldn't worry to much, i'm not...

[Choop]

the first time was down at his office, the next was when he stopped out at my house to review what he found out..

he was getting on me about my high school grades back in 1991, stating that i couldn't handle the stress.. i wouldn't worry to much, i'm not...

Wow, your high school grades from '91?? I got a D or two back in high school ('95-'99). I hope that doesn't drop me from the process!!

On a lighter note I got through the PAT no sweat last weekend. I was worried a bit about the wall but I aced it. We then went out to do the push-ups and the mile and a half run. I got sooooo lucky, we were the second group of ten to do the run and the last guy from the first group took 23 minutes to do the mile and a half!! Needless to say I was stoked since we got to have a nice super long rest while we waited for him!!

[Copp'rPenny]

LOL, that happened to me, too. I was grateful for the break while we waited for the last straggler in the heat before us to come in. Anybody use the puke tree at your session? The staff seemed disappointed no one made use of it our session.

[Choop]

LOL, that happened to me, too. I was grateful for the break while we waited for the last straggler in the heat before us to come in. Anybody use the puke tree at your session? The staff seemed disappointed no one made use of it our session.

After I was done with my sit ups I watched as the 23 minute dude and a few others proceeded to puke BEFORE THE RUN!! The staff stood there and held the runners until the other two were done and could do the run. Amazing.

[nordy racer]

23 minutes WOW...

[hbliam]

Yeah, that guys done. If your not sub 14 you don't stand a chance of being hired. They prefer 12 or sub 12.

[Choop]

Yeah I think they cut him loose right there. I was about 12:30. The academy captain said I should be fine for the academy as long as I keep running.

Ran 3 miles this last weekend in shorts and shoes. Gotta love 85 degrees in January!!

-- C

[Choop]

Also does anyone know what this first interview is that they scheduled me for after the PAT? Is it just the background investigator interview? What should I expect?

[hbliam]

Also does anyone know what this first interview is that they scheduled me for after the PAT? Is it just the background investigator interview? What should I expect?

The first interview is usually your oral board (cop and a civilian) and if you pass that it's followed up by an immediate interview with one or two background investigators. They go through your whole packet and see if they need to cut you loose right then or not. If they keep you they they start the real background process.

[Choop]

The first interview is usually your oral board (cop and a civilian) and if you pass that it's followed up by an immediate interview with one or two background investigators. They go through your whole packet and see if they need to cut you loose right then or not. If they keep you they they start the real background process.


Hmmmm, I could have sworn it was just the background investigator interview. Have you gone through the process and know that it's the oral boards and then the BG interview for sure??

[Copp'rPenny]

I was told it is both the oral board and the BI interview. I'm there tomorrow. :)

[Choop]

Ah tomorrow. Well good luck, I'm sure you'll do great and please share with me what it was like when you get back tomorrow after you ace both portions. ;)

[hbliam]

Hmmmm, I could have sworn it was just the background investigator interview. Have you gone through the process and know that it's the oral boards and then the BG interview for sure??

Lets just say I know for sure. :cool:

[AWarr]

Yep!
I was told that two interviews were to be conducted on the day of my interview day!

[Copp'rPenny]

YEA!!!!


That is all.
:)

[nordy racer]

so did you pass both interviews?

[Copp'rPenny]

OK, you've GOT to get better powers of deduction. ;) Yes, and now have all the appointments scheduled and am digging up medical records. There are still more hoops to jump, but it's exciting getting this far. Hey, maybe our psych tests are the same day? I think mine's Feb. 7.

[nordy racer]

OK, you've GOT to get better powers of deduction. ;) Yes, and now have all the appointments scheduled and am digging up medical records. There are still more hoops to jump, but it's exciting getting this far. Hey, maybe our psych tests are the same day? I think mine's Feb. 7.

yep.. Feb 7th at 9am..

[Copp'rPenny]

Definitely say hi. I'll be easier to find for you than you for me. I'm the girl with the copper color hair. ;)

[cl1212]

the first time was down at his office, the next was when he stopped out at my house to review what he found out..

he was getting on me about my high school grades back in 1991, stating that i couldn't handle the stress.. i wouldn't worry to much, i'm not...

I failed two straight yrs of high school, I hated school. I was in high school in the late 80s so I hope my college grade are good enough. I have a 3.86 college GPA so that should make up for my bad grades in high school. Thanks for the input it helps to know others are going through the same thing.

[cl1212]

Hmmmm, I could have sworn it was just the background investigator interview. Have you gone through the process and know that it's the oral boards and then the BG interview for sure??

It is both same day. For sure.

[cl1212]

After I was done with my sit ups I watched as the 23 minute dude and a few others proceeded to puke BEFORE THE RUN!! The staff stood there and held the runners until the other two were done and could do the run. Amazing.

I dont remember doing sit ups at the PAT. and even if you run 15 min you have a chance as long as you keep working at it. They will just fire you the first 2-5 weeks in the academy if you continue to be sub-standard.

[hbliam]

I dont remember doing sit ups at the PAT. and even if you run 15 min you have a chance as long as you keep working at it. They will just fire you the first 2-5 weeks in the academy if you continue to be sub-standard.


Wrong. They rarely fire anyone for PT, you fail out or get injured before that happens. And a 15 minute time will only get you in if they are desperate for bodies.

[cl1212]

Wrong. They rarely fire anyone for PT, you fail out or get injured before that happens. And a 15 minute time will only get you in if they are desperate for bodies.

Your probabley right. I am glad I ran faster than that then. Not much, but I still have a chance.

[Choop]

I dont remember doing sit ups at the PAT.

My bad, that should have read "push-ups".

As for the oral int and background int I have both this week. I'm a bit nervous but I think I'll do fine. For those of you that have already done it in the last few weeks what was it like?

[Choop]

Just droppin' in to say "I'm through to Hollywood" !!

:D

[Copp'rPenny]

Congrats, Choop! Are you coming to the 9 a.m. Feb. 7 written psych?

[Choop]

Thanks Copp'r!!

I have all my paperwork at home so I'll have to check and get back to you about Feb. 7th, if so I'll get you that beer. :-) Also, how was the poly? Feel free to pm me about if need be.

I hope to see you one of these days and again thank you for all the help.

-- C

[eagleI]

Wrong. They rarely fire anyone for PT, you fail out or get injured before that happens. And a 15 minute time will only get you in if they are desperate for bodies.

It is a POST requirement that you must pass the WSTB (Work Sample Test Battery). You will have a pre-evaluation test, mid-term, then a final. If you don't pass the final you can remediate then retake the test. If you fail, you are out. (The WSTB includes the wall --solid & chain link--, obs. course, 165 dummy drag & 500 yd. run.)

[hbliam]

It is a POST requirement that you must pass the WSTB (Work Sample Test Battery). You will have a pre-evaluation test, mid-term, then a final. If you don't pass the final you can remediate then retake the test. If you fail, you are out. (The WSTB includes the wall --solid & chain link--, obs. course, 165 dummy drag & 500 yd. run.)


Like I said. They rarely fail anyone for PT. The above test is childs play compared to the regular PT.

[Caesar]

It is a POST requirement that you must pass the WSTB (Work Sample Test Battery). You will have a pre-evaluation test, mid-term, then a final. If you don't pass the final you can remediate then retake the test. If you fail, you are out. (The WSTB includes the wall --solid & chain link--, obs. course, 165 dummy drag & 500 yd. run.)

Yea this is the least of your worries as far as PT is concerned. Even if youre injured prior to the test the staff will wait til youre healthy again and let you take it then.

[nordy racer]

good luck with everyone in the LBPD hiring process, i hope you all get in.. i'm taking my name out this Friday.. i received a call from the Goverment yesterday asking if i wanted a spot with Customs out of LB Port.. i took it :) and i start on the 23rd of this month..

[Copp'rPenny]

Congrats!

Ah, so I guess I won't be seeing you Saturday for the written psych. Anyone else going????

[AWarr]

Congrats!

Ah, so I guess I won't be seeing you Saturday for the written psych. Anyone else going????


Mine's next Saturday......on Valentines day! lol

[Copp'rPenny]

Hey everyone, I heard a "rumor" today that the academy is being pushed back from June to October. Anyone got any hard facts for us???

[hbliam]

Hey everyone, I heard a "rumor" today that the academy is being pushed back from June to October. Anyone got any hard facts for us???


Wouldnt be surpised what with all the budget news. Better anyway, no heat on the runs.:)

[Caesar]

Hey everyone, I heard a "rumor" today that the academy is being pushed back from June to October. Anyone got any hard facts for us???

Yea what hbliam said, and the fact that the past two academy classes have been in Oct too.

[Copp'rPenny]

I guess I'll find out tomorrow a.m. ...

[erich]

Hey Copp'rPenny, do you drive a white caddie with rims?

[Copp'rPenny]

absolutely NOT! Were you there today? I was the only female. I couldn't have stuck out more had I wanted to.

And the "rumor" of the October academy start date remains a rumor (and probably a possibility, but until I get it confirmed from an LBPD staff member in the know, it will remain a rumor).

[erich]

absolutely NOT! Were you there today? I was the only female. I couldn't have stuck out more had I wanted to.

And the "rumor" of the October academy start date remains a rumor (and probably a possibility, but until I get it confirmed from an LBPD staff member in the know, it will remain a rumor).

I was shooting at the range two weeks ago and when I left I spoke to a female applicant. Thought it might be you, but I guess not.:cool:

Good luck with the rest of the process.

[IronBruin]

Hey Copp'rPenny, do you drive a white caddie with rims?

Hahaha, that's funny.:D

[Copp'rPenny]

I found it hilarious, too, though I don't know why!

[IronBruin]

I found it hilarious, too, though I don't know why!

It gave me a little laugh picturing you rolling in a caddy with rims:cool:

[DOAcop38]

Hey Copp'rPenny, do you drive a white caddie with rims?

now thats just plain "wrong", erich ..!:D( I hope the applicant who drove "that" did it because there was no other reliable transport)! But some folks can't accept that they must leave the "hood" to be something better-( hopefully it was a nice CTS with fashionable chrome instead of a '77 coupe d'ville on 14's" ):rolleyes:

[Copp'rPenny]

It gave me a little laugh picturing you rolling in a caddy with rims:cool:

Um, just how could you "picture" me? If you're looking up old issues of the DB, that's just CREEPY! :D I may have to have a talk with your BIs!

[IronBruin]

Um, just how could you "picture" me? If you're looking up old issues of the DB, that's just CREEPY! :D I may have to have a talk with your BIs!

Tested with you in HB, duh.:)

[Choop]

Hey Awarr I guess I'll see you on Saturday then. I'll be the one in the suit and tie. ;)

As for the Academy date I too heard that it was pushed to Oct. A friend that's a cadet with LB and currently in the process said that's what he heard. I also heard that it was posted on the PD's site but I couldn't find anything. Heck I even checked the minutes from the recent city council meetings for info. Nothing yet.

As an aside I went for printing last week and of course showed up in suit and tie. The other applicant that was scheduled with me showed up in jeans and a t-shirt. When I was done the finger print tech thanked me for "dressing appropriately" and said that I wouldn't believe the way some people come dressed." I motioned to the waiting room and said "I can guess." I can only hope the way the other applicant was dressed made it onto some report somewhere.

Good luck everyone. Oh and my poly's this week!!

[Copp'rPenny]

Hey guys, here's a tip for you, as it is a LONG walk from the parking lot, and it's expected to rain again this Saturday. TRENCH COAT AND AN UMBRELLA. Almost everyone who wore a suit last week (and several didn't) was completely soaked by the time they entered the fireside room. You'd think it would be obvious ...

PS to Choop, I'm glad you mentioned the comment by the Livescan operator. I wore a suit, but she didn't comment. Have fun at the poly. If you get there early, there is a greasy spoon on the first floor.

[Copp'rPenny]

Got the official notice. Academy class 86's start date is Oct. 1.

[Choop]

Thanks Penny. Here are the new dates incase anyone didn't get them:

* Selection Date - Thursday, August 13, 2009
* Medical Examinations & Psychological Interviews - August 17, 2009 through September 4, 2009
* Mandatory Orientation for selected recruits - Saturday, September 12, 2009
* Start Date for Class 86 - Thursday, October 1, 2009

The rest of the process will remain the same and we will continue conducting background investigations in preparation for Class 86.

[nordy racer]

just hope they don't push it back even more :(.. good luck guys...

[Choop]

Any ideas on why they changed it? Hopefully they cancelled the July Academy to save money and are going to choose a bigger group of applicants now for the October Academy.

?????

[nordy racer]

Any ideas on why they changed it? Hopefully they cancelled the July Academy to save money and are going to choose a bigger group of applicants now for the October Academy.

?????

nope, i heard they dropped the amount of people for the class too...

[AWarr]

Wow, pushing it back to October is quite a detriment to the organization of my planned out life!

What am I going to do now with myself for another 4 months?!?!

[Showboat]

Wow, pushing it back to October is quite a detriment to the organization of my planned out life!

What am I going to do now with myself for another 4 months?!?!

Run?

[AWarr]

Run?


Naw...Running's overrated anyhow!

I hear you don't even need to exercise before the academy! I think they just try to scare you into it.....






haha, jk

[Choop]

While I'm glad that they at least emailed us new dates I hope we get some more info soon. Long Beach is most definately where I want to be but I'd like to know how many applicants are still in the running and roughly how many they are going to put in the academy. I'm fairly sure they're not going to tell us though.

With that said have any of you heard personally from your BI's?

Fingers crossed and I'm still excited. I refuse to let this news deter my optimism.

[Lbsurf2]

While I'm glad that they at least emailed us new dates I hope we get some more info soon. Long Beach is most definately where I want to be but I'd like to know how many applicants are still in the running and roughly how many they are going to put in the academy. I'm fairly sure they're not going to tell us though.

With that said have any of you heard personally from your BI's?

Fingers crossed and I'm still excited. I refuse to let this news deter my optimism.


I am in not an officer or in the running, but I know a few Long Beach Officers. They usually higher about 50-70 officers at time. Hope that helps...good luck

[hbliam]

I am in not an officer or in the running, but I know a few Long Beach Officers. They usually higher about 50-70 officers at time. Hope that helps...good luck

They usually hire 30-40. Class 80, 81, 82 were large classes (60-80) that they used to shore up the low numbers they had at the time. They also run recruits for other agencies as well. Hawthorne for instance.

[nordy racer]

i'm hearing right at 30 or a little below for this class...

[Choop]

Thanks for the info Nordy. That's better news than if they were only taking 10 or so. Although I doubt they'd even run the Academy at that point.

Also are you a parole officer? That's another avenue I'm thinking about perusing and I'd love to get some info on how to go about it if you have time. Let me know and I'll shoot you a pm so we can chat.

[dg80]

I took my written psych this past Saturday...I read that they emailed new dates but was that for everyone? wonder how many people are still in it.

[Copp'rPenny]

I took my written psych this past Saturday...I read that they emailed new dates but was that for everyone? wonder how many people are still in it.

I did, too. I was the lone female. Were you sitting near me (in the front)? Nice weather that day, eh? :D

[Choop]

I took my written psych this past Saturday...I read that they emailed new dates but was that for everyone? wonder how many people are still in it.

Well that's odd that you didn't get the email. But yes it seemed that it was a "mass email" to everyone still in the process. I'd also love to know who's still in the running. I haven't heard anything from my BI's since the interview, they're probably swamped with work though. If anyone has more info on any of this please share!! :D

[dg80]

Yes the weather was bad that day at least it wasnt a physical... I have not
heard anything from the BI. I know they had many applicants to go through.

[Choop]

The following is Mayor Foster's budget recommendation for fiscal year 2009 as it specifically relates to the PD. This is dated August 1st 2008 so it could be for last Octobe but it does say Fiscal Year 2009.

??

-- C


"7.) Police Overtime and Academy Class
For the first time in 6 years, the budget fully funds the Police
Department’s request for overtime resources, ending the need to maintain
vacancies to cover costs. While our work here is not yet done, this was a
significant managerial and budgetary challenge over the past several
months and a great deal of credit goes to Chief Batts and his command
staff for their efforts. Continued efforts to closely manage overtime
expenses will still be required to maintain a balanced budget.
In this year’s Manager’s budget, an additional 6 sworn officers will be re-
directed into patrol by the elimination of PAL. Over the past two years,
through hiring and administrative direction, 86 more officers will be on
the streets than 2 years ago. "

"Further, I am recommending that LBPD maximize the October academy
and “super-sizes” its number of recruits from 34 to 50. "

[Choop]

Was anyone else really put off by the company that did the polygraph? I know for certain that I was 100% truthful and have NOTHING to hide and I know that the #1 value throughout this whole process is honesty.

I really felt that the man that did my polygraph (the younger man in the office) was trying to get reactions from me. At one point he stopped the test and told me that I was "controlling my breathing" and I didn't know what that meant. I asked, and he said "answer the questions" which wasn't much help. They have you stare at a wall and with 30-40 seconds between questions all I had to think about was my breathing. I was worried about questioning him any further since I thought he might get offended and score me poorly because of it. At the end I asked if my breathing was better and he said "no".

I wasn't expecting a warm welcoming environment but I would have liked some professionalism. He treated me like I was a convicted criminal. Maybe that was the point of the test?

If for some reason they do score me poorly I only hope that the selection committee takes that into account with all the other positive aspects of my candidacy. I know in my heart that I am a truthful and trustworthy person and I know that I would make a great officer.

Did anyone else face this same type of situation?

[dg80]

I had a similar experience...lets just say the test didnt go too well. I was not nervous going into it because I knew that I had nothing to hide and I was going to be completely honest. The person doing the test stopped it after the 2nd run and said that I was being dishonest on one question...I told him that I do not understand why that happened, he kept on saying "Is there something you forgot to tell me or you would like to tell me" like what seemed to be 20 times. That alone made feel like maybe I did do something wrong, etc...But I know that I was 100% honest during the exam. so I too kinda felt like a criminal. After going back and forth he just said he would send in the results in order to be reviewed and nothing else. I have passed a poly before so I dont know what happened that day.

[IronBruin]

Relax people! The polygraph is a questionable science at best. They just treat you like that to get you to make admissions, the goal of the examiner is to get admissions!

[nordy racer]

LOL.. i was thinking the same thing when i did mine for LBPD.. thankfully my friend gave me a heads up before i even step foot into that building that they would give you crap big time. when i walked out of there i was thinking i was complete dirt.. the guy even gave me his card and stated that i should go home and think about my answers and give him a call back so we could re-test.. well guess what, i passed the poly without a problem.. i wouldn't worry to much about it, i was freaking out for a couple weeks intill the Background investigator called me to start my case packet..

[AWarr]

This was my second polygraph and I actually thought it went pretty well.

My first one was one of the worst experiences of my life though! The first one I left the place with my head hung low and my tail between my legs.

This one, this one was different. I thought mine went pretty smoothly!
Sorry to hear about all your bad experiences!

[Copp'rPenny]

I thought mine went pretty smoothly!
Sorry to hear about all your bad experiences!

Me too. But I had the older gentleman conduct my poly.

So, how was the Valentine's Day psych test?

[cl1212]

Well that's odd that you didn't get the email. But yes it seemed that it was a "mass email" to everyone still in the process. I'd also love to know who's still in the running. I haven't heard anything from my BI's since the interview, they're probably swamped with work though. If anyone has more info on any of this please share!! :D

Can you send a copy of the email I did not get one. As far as I know I am still in the running.

[dg80]

If you go to the LB PD website and check Recruit Info you can see the new dates...Has anyone received news on their written pysch test, or will we even be getting results on the exam?

[hbliam]

You just get scheduled for the oral pysch, there are no results. The PD pysch will have the results with her during your interview.

[08duramax]

i believe you dont get scheduled for the oral psych until after selections

[Copp'rPenny]

08duramax, are you in the LBPD process, too? (and I think you're right)

[hbliam]

i believe you dont get scheduled for the oral psych until after selections

Correct but you still never get/see the results. They also started having the oral psych and medical after selections to save money. That would suck to fail the medical (which some people do) or psych and now you were selected.

[IronBruin]

Correct but you still never get/see the results. They also started having the oral psych and medical after selections to save money. That would suck to fail the medical (which some people do) or psych and now you were selected.

That's why a department that I am in backgrounds with does the Chief's interview before backgrounds. Apparently people were passing everything then going to the Chief and getting the thumbs down. That's a lot of money on the BI and other tests for people that you end up not hiring.

[08duramax]

08duramax, are you in the LBPD process, too? (and I think you're right)

yes i am in the process with long beach. i have passed everything so far. terrible score on the run but other than that i am doing good i think. i did this process with them about 2 years ago and made it all the way through but wasnt selected. it sucked. everything so far has been the same so if you have any questions i might be able to give you some insight.

[Copp'rPenny]

What was your time on the run? Have we crossed paths? I was at the Jan. 4 PAT and the Feb. 7 written psych. Good luck!

[buredbeard]

Hey everyone, just thought I'd stop by and say hello and good luck to everyone else in the process. Thought I'd comment/respond to a few things I've read so far.

I had my PAT on the 3rd, Oral on Jan 20th, and written psych on Feb 17th. I started my background the week before the written psych and my BI is waiting on a document or two from Texas, but says I've pretty much passed.

Has anyone gotten any indication from their BI as to where they stand so far in relation to other candidates? I feel like mine hinted a couple times but don't want to say either way in case I read into it too much.

I also did a ride along last week and for anyone who hasnt done one with Long Beach yet, I recommend it. The person you need to talk to about setting one up, is Sgt. Kaiser. I just called the headquarters and got patched through to him eventually so I dont have a phone number, but he wasnt difficult to get ahold of. I had my ride along about a week after I contacted him.

I was also wondering if anyone would be interested in a running or workout group. I know with the academy being pushed back to October it might be difficult to stay motivated to keep up the physical aspect until then. I live off the circle, and PCH makes for a nice little hill section at the end of the run. I'm currently doing 3-4 miles a couple times a week at about 8-9 min/mi, but would like to start doing some sprint/agility work too if anyone has a good workout going for that. Sorry for the long post but it always helps to know what other people in the same spot are thinking.

[08duramax]

What was your time on the run? Have we crossed paths? I was at the Jan. 4 PAT and the Feb. 7 written psych. Good luck!

my time was a little over 14 min. it sucks. i was just having one of those days. whatever happens will happen. i run 3-5 miles at a 8 min mile pace, but that day i was a sick and just feeling like crap. i hope i can redeem myself before selections. no we have had different days for everything.

i had my pt on 1/18 i think, my interview on 1/19, my poly on 1/27, and my psych on 2/8. i havent heard from my background investigator yet. wonder how long it is going to take.

[hbliam]

I was also wondering if anyone would be interested in a running or workout group. I know with the academy being pushed back to October it might be difficult to stay motivated to keep up the physical aspect until then. I live off the circle, and PCH makes for a nice little hill section at the end of the run. I'm currently doing 3-4 miles a couple times a week at about 8-9 min/mi, but would like to start doing some sprint/agility work too if anyone has a good workout going for that. Sorry for the long post but it always helps to know what other people in the same spot are thinking.


If you are going to start a running group, you should do that at El Dorado park next to the academy, since that's where you will running anyway. I'm sure the staff would give you some advice on a few of the routes that they use.

[doc_holiday]

Any word on how many people LB is looking to hire?

[Copp'rPenny]

I haven't heard officially. But I've unofficially heard around 30. It wouldn't surprise me if it were less.

Does El Dorado Park have any hills, or is it all flat? I've been running hills once a week for strength/endurance training ... but I don't love 'em! :D

[08duramax]

have all of you heard from your background investigators already?

[AWarr]

Mine called me on Thursday. I called on Friday and left a message.
Ill be trying to call on Monday.

Hopefully I don't get dumped. That would really make me sad :(

[buredbeard]

If you are going to start a running group, you should do that at El Dorado park next to the academy, since that's where you will running anyway. I'm sure the staff would give you some advice on a few of the routes that they use.

I wouldnt mind running out there at all. I like to change my route pretty frequently though, so maybe we could run there one or two days a week and some other places as well. I just dont like looking at the same stuff all the time.

Any word on how many people LB is looking to hire?

I was told 40 very recently, but I dont know how accurate that was or how much it will change by October.

[hbliam]

I wouldn't count on anything until the day you are in the front leaning rest postion...

http://www.lbreport.com/news/feb09/battsbud.htm

[erich]

I wouldn't count on anything until the day you are in the front leaning rest postion...

http://www.lbreport.com/news/feb09/battsbud.htm

+1 Budget outlook is bleak for the city.

[Blind Justice]

Does anyone know how LBPD or any other agencies in the Southern California area favor upon laterals from out of state?

I am an officer in Atlanta, GA (since 2005) and my wife and I plan on moving back to California sometime in 2009. I am in the process of receiving my POST Waiver, however, I am not sure how much pull that carries with it, in the SOCAL neighborhood.

Thanks for the info, and good luck to all the aspiring recruits.

[hbliam]

LB has not hired a lateral (local or out of state) since May of 2006. I wouldn't count on them hiring any in the foreseeable future.

[Choop]

I'm freaking out a bit. I haven't heard from my BI yet. My poly was on the 13th and I'm starting to get a little worried. Has everyone heard back from their BI's already?

[AWarr]

Yep, heard from mine already

[Choop]

Well I'm happy for you but that sucks for me. :(

When was your poly? Maybe your a week or so ahead of me?

[hbliam]

I'm freaking out a bit. I haven't heard from my BI yet. My poly was on the 13th and I'm starting to get a little worried. Has everyone heard back from their BI's already?

Since the class has been postponed until October that means your BI has until August to finish. I wouldn't sweat it.

Something other things are going to come into play now:
- The new budget cycle that starts right before that class is scheduled to start.
-The fact that the City has to cut 20 M from said budget
-The fact that the idea of furloughing has been floated

If you guys aren't applying at EVERY agency that is hiring you are crazy.

[Choop]

I think I'm just worried because it seems from a few posts here that some calls have been made just to touch base with recruits and I haven't heard anything. It's so weird having all these dates and tasks to hit over the last few months and now.... nothing. I'm getting really antsy and just want to know one way or another.

Every day that goes by without a call just makes me think that that jerky polygraph guy told the PD that I'm a liar even though I was 100% truthful. It sucks that one guy could possibly ruin someone's career because they are an "expert" in junk science.

[hbliam]

I think I'm just worried because it seems from a few posts here that some calls have been made just to touch base with recruits and I haven't heard anything. It's so weird having all these dates and tasks to hit over the last few months and now.... nothing. I'm getting really antsy and just want to know one way or another.

Every day that goes by without a call just makes me think that that jerky polygraph guy told the PD that I'm a liar even though I was 100% truthful. It sucks that one guy could possibly ruin someone's career because they are an "expert" in junk science.

Unless you are flat out DQ'd you won't know "one way or the other" until selections.

[08duramax]

I had my poly on 1/27 and I still haven't heard anything either. Like they said. With academy pushed back they probably not in a hurry.

[breezygirl]

hey u guys- i have a question. i tried applying to lbpd in like late november/early december, and i was told that they werent gonna b takin apps til this coming july, so how did YOU all get to take ur tests so recently?
:(
i really wanted to join lbpd...i live SUPER close to the academy (Carson and Palo Verde), and i love the city/dept.
should i call again to try to test with them or did u new testers apply MONTHS ago in advance and theyre barely lettin u test???

[Copp'rPenny]

You missed it by days. The last day to apply for the next academy was Oct. 31. :( I guess in July, they'll start taking apps for the 2010 academy.

In the meantime, make sure you're in great running shape and can jump a wall. Most of the women didn't pass the physical agilities test (and in fact, many of them admitted to not practicing ... it doesn't come naturally!). Good luck!

[Choop]

Have you heard from your BI's yet Penny??

[buredbeard]

I wouldnt sweat a whole lot about not hearing from a BI yet. I met with my BI for the first time right around the end of January and he said I was one of the first he was doing. The last time I spoke with him (yesterday) he said he had whole stack of people now, so it sounded like they were trying to handle them all but a few BIs can only handle so many people at once. To those who havent heard from a BI yet, just have confidence and try to relax. Best of luck.

[Copp'rPenny]

Nope, but I'm not worried. Like our bearded friend (do you really have a beard? Is it red? Is it your back-up beard? :) Don't you have to shave that for LE?) says, they're very busy.

[breezygirl]

copp'r penny: yeah, that's what they told me...they were all like...oh...if only u had applied a week ago..... and i was like awwWwWwW...... i didnt see why they couldnt lemme just apply a week later if they werent even doin the testing yet..... :(
so yeah...in the meantime i'm applying with L.A.P.D., just waitin 4 my results cuz THEYRE actually hiring right now...dont know when the academy is though.....
and i'll apply with lb in july then.
i'm just gonna go with whoever picks me up 1st cuz they're both good depts.

is the lbpd acad. goin on right now? cuz i can sumtimes hear gunshots from the range when i'm standin outside......

man! i have the worst luck! lol!

so.....the majority of the women fail out? jus cuz i rarely see lbpd female cops around.....is lbpd's acad harder than lapd's do u think????

[IronBruin]

copp'r penny: yeah, that's what they told me...they were all like...oh...if only u had applied a week ago..... and i was like awwWwWwW...... i didnt see why they couldnt lemme just apply a week later if they werent even doin the testing yet..... :(
so yeah...in the meantime i'm applying with L.A.P.D., just waitin 4 my results cuz THEYRE actually hiring right now...dont know when the academy is though.....
and i'll apply with lb in july then.
i'm just gonna go with whoever picks me up 1st cuz they're both good depts.

is the lbpd acad. goin on right now? cuz i can sumtimes hear gunshots from the range when i'm standin outside......

man! i have the worst luck! lol!

so.....the majority of the women fail out? jus cuz i rarely see lbpd female cops around.....is lbpd's acad harder than lapd's do u think????

This post makes my head hurt.

[breezygirl]

hahaha! sorRRRRRRY!!!! lol! :)

[Copp'rPenny]

I *think* there is an academy there, but I know the range is always used, not just when academies are running. I can't speak to whether LBPD's academy is harder than anyone else's. I imagine grads from LAPD and LBPD will disagree on the issue. ;) All I know is to be up to the challenge.

[breezygirl]

thankies copp'r penny! :)

[Choop]

Ok first off I hate to be rude but most of these questions can be answered by reading the previous posts in this thread or browsing the LBPD website.

1: There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY they would let you apply if you missed the hiring window. The whole process is a test and if you miss a date you're done.

2: As Penny said there is a firing range on the grounds and officers practice at their leisure there. You'll always hear gunfire.

3: Technically LBPD is harder than most academies. They require a higher passing rate on tests than is mandated by POST guidelines and their academy almost doubles the instruction time that is mandated by POST.

4: Women naturally have less upper body strength than men. The wall gave me problems at first so I can imagine how tough it would be for a woman. Like everything else though all it takes is a little muscle building and some practice. Most of the women doing the PAT when I was there possessed neither.

Best of luck and I hope everything works out for you.

-- Choop

EDIT: I just read my post and it seems to come off as a bit rude. I meant this to be informational not rude. Please don't take it that way. :-)




copp'r penny: yeah, that's what they told me...they were all like...oh...if only u had applied a week ago..... and i was like awwWwWwW...... i didnt see why they couldnt lemme just apply a week later if they werent even doin the testing yet..... :(
so yeah...in the meantime i'm applying with L.A.P.D., just waitin 4 my results cuz THEYRE actually hiring right now...dont know when the academy is though.....
and i'll apply with lb in july then.
i'm just gonna go with whoever picks me up 1st cuz they're both good depts.

is the lbpd acad. goin on right now? cuz i can sumtimes hear gunshots from the range when i'm standin outside......

man! i have the worst luck! lol!

so.....the majority of the women fail out? jus cuz i rarely see lbpd female cops around.....is lbpd's acad harder than lapd's do u think????

[breezygirl]

thank you, choop.

[breezygirl]

no worries, lol! seriously..... :)

[buredbeard]

Nope, but I'm not worried. Like our bearded friend (do you really have a beard? Is it red? Is it your back-up beard? :) Don't you have to shave that for LE?) says, they're very busy.

Well Penny, I used to have a beard (more of a goatee actually) and yes it was red thanks, I assume to my Irish heritage, since noone in my family really has rea hair, including me. I shaved it off after 7 years in July though once I started really going to LE tests and such.

copp'r penny: yeah, that's what they told me...they were all like...oh...if only u had applied a week ago..... and i was like awwWwWwW...... i didnt see why they couldnt lemme just apply a week later if they werent even doin the testing yet..... :(
so yeah...in the meantime i'm applying with L.A.P.D., just waitin 4 my results cuz THEYRE actually hiring right now...dont know when the academy is though.....
and i'll apply with lb in july then.
i'm just gonna go with whoever picks me up 1st cuz they're both good depts.

is the lbpd acad. goin on right now? cuz i can sumtimes hear gunshots from the range when i'm standin outside......

man! i have the worst luck! lol!

so.....the majority of the women fail out? jus cuz i rarely see lbpd female cops around.....is lbpd's acad harder than lapd's do u think????

Well there is still an academy going on, because the last class as pushed back just like this one has. I saw some of the out there running around when I met with my background guy. They must be pretty close to being done though. Like it was said already though, the range is in use pretty frequently, so you'll hear shots often.

As for you not seeing mny female officers in LB, you have to consider how many more males apply in the first place as compare to females, then consider how many females may be knocked out at some point during the process. I dont think theres really that many fewer females in relation to other departments.

[Copp'rPenny]

I agree, it's not less there than any other place. I believe I've read that the national average is that women make up 10 percent of the sworn LE workforce for departments that require passing a PAT (15 percent for those that don't have a PAT -- but as a concerned citizen, I certainly am not in favor of THAT :eek:).

[breezygirl]

wow- those are some crazy statistics....
i guess i'm just comparing it to the l.a.p.d., i mean...cuz the l.a.p.d. and l.a.s.d. is like right next door to us.i mean...lasd is even here in l.b. too...the downtown areas...the malls... i know those departments are way bigger than l.b., but i guess i just thought, well..y dont sum of those chicks come next door to l.b. and try it out here?
maybe lapd has a rigorous pat test too because when i took my test about a week or so ago, there were only 3 chicks there, includin myself.

[hbliam]

wow- those are some crazy statistics....
i guess i'm just comparing it to the l.a.p.d., i mean...cuz the l.a.p.d. and l.a.s.d. is like right next door to us.i mean...lasd is even here in l.b. too...the downtown areas...the malls... i know those departments are way bigger than l.b., but i guess i just thought, well..y dont sum of those chicks come next door to l.b. and try it out here?
maybe lapd has a rigorous pat test too because when i took my test about a week or so ago, there were only 3 chicks there, includin myself.

The LASD covers the blue line (train) but has no other responsibilty in Long Beach. They do not cover any area downtown.

[Copp'rPenny]

LASD is under court order to hire more women. They need to bring their total sworn ranks to 20 percent overall. LAPD may have a similar mandate, but I'm not familiar with it.

From what I've read, the PATs for LAPD and LASD aren't difficult at all (no wall to climb). With the obstacle course (which includes the wall and a 165-pound dummy drag for 50 feet), Long Beach's was a lot more challenging.

[Choop]

Yeah from what I can tell it seems that the LB PAT is one of the toughest around here. When I was at the PAT somehow other people around me didn't know that the target for the mile and a half run was 12:00. Heck one guy in the group ahead of me ran it in 23 minutes, I think I could have crawled it faster....lol. How do you get that far and not know what's expected of you? Also thank you to that guy for allowing me to have an extra long rest while we waited for him to return.

As for the LASD I believe they also patrol Lakewood as I don't think there is a Lakewood PD. You may have seen them over there.

[buredbeard]

In all honestly I thought the Long Beach PAT was easier than the other ones I've taken. For the agencies I did in OC there were two six foot walls and several smaller obstacles/walls, as well as monkey bars. Personally the monkey bars were way harder than I expected.

As for the guy who "ran" a 23 minute mile and a half, who knows what his level of motivation was. I saw a guy doing his pushups...he got to #18 an without looking like he was straining at all just stopped. The same guy was walking before the half-way point of the run and he wasnt out of shape looking by any means. If I couldnt do all 40 pushups or run a mile and a half, I sure as hell would have looked like I dieing trying to get there. Some people just arent as motivated as others and it shows. Sadly for them, the ones who arent as motivated are also the ones who think other people dont notice.

[Copp'rPenny]

Yeah, the obstacle course at OCSA is a challenge (but fun, too). The monkey bars aren't too bad, but boy do I feel them the next day. To me, the hardest PATs are the ones held at the obstacle course at Miramar (includes three flights of stairs to go down and back up, three walls and the 165-pound dummy drag). But from a female perspective, any PAT that includes a wall is going to harder than one that doesn't.

[breezygirl]

hbliam and choop: well.. i know that lasd doesnt patrol downtown, but they have jurisdiction on the trains, so THAT'S why i always see em there in downtown l.b., but sumtimes i see em also walkin around pine along with sum of the l.b. cops, so i thought maybe they worked a bit down there too. and yeah...i was talkin about lakewood :)
it's weird because i thought lakewood had their own dept when i just moved out here cuz i isaw their patrol car and they didnt look at all like an l.a.s.d. car, and then when the dep. got outta the car and was wearing the l.a.s.d. uniform, i realized that they worked here too :)

[breezygirl]

copp'r penny: did YOU try out with l.a.s.d? and what is ur opinion on the Baca v. Bouman Decree of a 20% increase of women? I still am unsure of how i feel about it. i mean, yeah thats cool for the whole "girl power!" and all...but i mean..what about the commraderie for recruits in the academy?
i know that when I went to go test, there was ALREADY guys $hit-talking about it...and they werent even friggin recruits yet! total strangers to eachother! lol! and i felt like sayin...uh...hello?!?! im a girl!! and i'm sittin right next to you!! i just think that guys are gonna treat the girls a lot like crp in these next academies because they feel like they're takin up guys' spots, or as these guys were sayin...the spots of "qualified" recruits...

[Copp'rPenny]

I'm in backgrounds with LASD. I have mixed feelings about the the consent decree as well. I'm going to make it on my merits. I don't need or want a handout. Their PAT is the Cooper's Test, and it doesn't seem like there is really a pass-fail standard. I can understand how some of the men feel.

[Copp'rPenny]

And just because it needs to be said ...

Breezygirl, this is said in love, truly it is ... You may want to practice writing, you know, actual English. I know the younger generation has its text-way of writing, but you'll be needing actual grammar and spelling in the LE (and real) world. :)

[AWarr]

I like LBPD because the Chief of Police has as Doctoral degree.

I'm only 23 and I will be obtaining my Masters in another 3 months. The idea of pursuing a Dr. degree is something within my reach....Chief Batts is a bit of an inspiration to me.

Likewise, I have run into lots of Chief Batt's research while conducting research for my Thesis. Im convinced that when academics are in high regard within the leadership, the law enforcement agency is going to benefit throughout every rank and file.

[Copp'rPenny]

Congrats on (almost) reaching your goal, AWarr. I'd like to go for my master's, but first I have to get hired. THEN I can pay for more schoolin'. ;)

[nordy racer]

As for the LASD I believe they also patrol Lakewood as I don't think there is a Lakewood PD. You may have seen them over there.

yes they do patrol Lakewood, but they drive Lakewood patrol cars..

[breezygirl]

copp'r penny: yeah, same here. i understand why the guys are ******ed...they feel cheated and as if they're being put on the bottom of the list in order for baca to reach sum quota.
and on the grammar- i know how to write correctly, i just figure, that since this is more of a relaxed atmosphere, and not my college term paper due to my English professor, i can chill out a lil bit, lol! seriously....i know my writing may look all retarded on here, but i'm actually pretty literate. i.e. when i was in the 9th grade, was tested and put into college level english.....im educated, but just choose to type more informal here :)

[Copp'rPenny]

Yes, I figured as much. But your background investigators will read what you write here, so might as well sound polished and "squared away." ;)

[08duramax]

Just heard from my BI today. Meeting with her Monday. Finally heard something. This helps settle my nerves. As for the pt. Some people have bad days like me. I run 8-8:30 min miles and I had a terrible run time. It happens.

[breezygirl]

i know...but still...i think they'll take a peek into my true lexicon when reading my essays...i dont think they judge grammar on some forum.
and theyre checkin here now too? lol! wow... i thought they were only checking myspaces and facebooks...but it makes sense to check here too since it IS a cop forum :)

[08duramax]

i understand myspace and what not, but how can the know who we are on here. i didnt put my name on the registration.

[breezygirl]

well...cuz it's more of an integrity issue. i have friends in l.e. whom, while sitting with their b.i. are asked to log onto their facebook or myspace in front of 'em. even if u say u dont have a myspace, there are still ways to find out...but with the offiver.com thing, it's probably more of an integrity issue. besides....why lie? seriously.....lol! :)

[hbliam]

It's an itegrity issue. LBPD will ask you for email address's that you use and user names on websites. If you fail to tell them and they find out then you are done.

[hbliam]

and I heard something today that doesn't bode well. I can't stress enough that any applicants should be applying at every agency that is hiring.

[breezygirl]

are u in the process with lbpd?
omg...i have like 6 different email addresses...hopefully i can remember all the passwords, lol! would one be disqualified if they couldnt remember the passwords do u think???

[08duramax]

well, i dont have a myspace or facebook. hope they dont hold that against me. they didnt ask for that stuff last time i applied

[dg80]

and I heard something today that doesn't bode well. I can't stress enough that any applicants should be applying at every agency that is hiring.

is this regarding the October class for LBPD

[08duramax]

and I heard something today that doesn't bode well. I can't stress enough that any applicants should be applying at every agency that is hiring.

What did you hear

[nordy racer]

i'll ask around but i think its being pushed to 2010..

[IronBruin]

i'll ask around but i think its being pushed to 2010..

:eek: That's not good!

[Copp'rPenny]

Wow, I am SOOOO jinxed. :(

[Garbage Man]

I really feel sorry for you guys right now.

This may be a time when you need to put yourselves through an academy, get hired on as a reserve and wait out the economy. Hopefully you can get a good full time job or maybe a student loan and finish college while you wait.

Then there is always the military.

Either a degree or the mlitary will shave some years off your career as far as advancement.

[AWarr]

i'll ask around but i think its being pushed to 2010..

No.....
There's no way.
I meet with my BI tomorrow. I shall inquire

[Garbage Man]

Oh I also just heard a rumor about the LB. I heard that they back loaded their last contract taking the balance of their raise in the last year. I heard they are due a 16% raise but there is no way they can afford to pay that, the coppers are saying "Oh yes you will" and the city is saying "Fine then we will lay off officers." Very sad times, I hope this is untrue

[nordy racer]

I really feel sorry for you guys right now.

This may be a time when you need to put yourselves through an academy, get hired on as a reserve and wait out the economy. Hopefully you can get a good full time job or maybe a student loan and finish college while you wait.

Then there is always the military.

Either a degree or the mlitary will shave some years off your career as far as advancement.

it does suck, i would love to be a LBO but i saw this coming down the road so i took the Government job.. it's a little less money but i do not see DHS laying off officers.. in fact they are hiring 9000 more officers over 2009-2010..

good luck guys.. i HOPE they have this class :)

[breezygirl]

I didn't think they would not be having this class because when I called to inquire, I was told that they would be re-opening the application to prospective recuits again this coming July....why would they open up the process only to push everyone back?

[IronBruin]

I didn't think they would not be having this class because when I called to inquire, I was told that they would be re-opening the application to prospective recuits again this coming July....why would they open up the process only to push everyone back?

Because they can keep applications on file for when they need people.

[08duramax]

exactally. many departments dont have spots but are still testing

[breezygirl]

but wouldn't the applications expire? Because when i tested with l.a.s.d. a while back, they told me their testing files expire after 6months, or maybe it was a year......

[hbliam]

[COLOR="Blue"]is this regarding the October class for LBPD

It's regarding the whole department, which ultimately affects the academy. Keywords are hiring freeze, furlough and possible layoffs. Hopefully none of the above, I'd hate to see my friends go through that.

i'll ask around but i think its being pushed to 2010..

I haven't heard that....yet.

Oh I also just heard a rumor about the LB. I heard that they back loaded their last contract taking the balance of their raise in the last year. I heard they are due a 16% raise but there is no way they can afford to pay that, the coppers are saying "Oh yes you will" and the city is saying "Fine then we will lay off officers." Very sad times, I hope this is untrue

They took a "take us the medain" raise at the end of the contract (9-09) and it's rumored to be significant. I'm hearing they may get it but then work without a contract for several years. Not a good trade.

I didn't think they would not be having this class because when I called to inquire, I was told that they would be re-opening the application to prospective recuits again this coming July....why would they open up the process only to push everyone back?

They were/are planning on taking apps in July. Unitl that changes you will be told they are taking apps in July. If that changes a week from now and you call the day before...they will tell you they are taking apps in July. Why would they tell you the economic state and plans of the agency when you call to inquire about testing?

but wouldn't the applications expire? Because when i tested with l.a.s.d. a while back, they told me their testing files expire after 6months, or maybe it was a year......

They just extend the list. and LBPD is not LASD.

[buredbeard]

Wow, I am SOOOO jinxed. :(

you gonna make it 5 for 5 Penny?

[Copp'rPenny]

For ALL of our sakes, I hope not! :eek:

[08duramax]

Where else have you applied penny so I can stop worrying about those departments. :-). Just kidding good luck.

[08duramax]

sooooooo... What's new? This thread is dying. Everyone too upset about the hiring slow down to post anymore?

[AWarr]

Met with my BI.
Super nice guy!!!!

[08duramax]

Who is your bi?

[08duramax]

I just met with my BI today. She was cool. Everything went good. She said it should go quickly because they did one two years ago on me. All they have to do is update the last two years. Now I can hurry up and wait.

Have you heard anything penny?

[dg80]

08duramax Did they let you know anything new about the academy?

[Copp'rPenny]

Nope. I have not heard from my BI yet. But I'm not worried. My time will come. And I'm pretty sure I've cleared my third background, so there's no concern about how it's going to. Just gotta wait my turn. :)

[Choop]

I'm getting a bit FREAKED since I haven't heard anything after my poly but as long as there are folks on here that haven't heard anything yet either I guess I'm still ok.... right? Right? :(

Also, I've been looking but are there any other depts in the area that are actually hiring right now? And please don't say LAPD or LASD. I don't want to work 4,000 miles from home.