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At Senator Strom Thurmond's birthday celebration last week Trent Lott said that,
When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him, We are proud of it.If the rest of the country followed our lead we wouldn't have had all these problems."
Now, Al Gore and other Dems are trying to censor him and Jesse Jackson is calling for his resignation!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
I guess it never occured to them all Lott was doing was trying to be cordial to a well respected, 100-year-old US Senator. :rolleyes:
If that was the comment in its full context, WTF???
But look at the people- Gore's an idiot.
Jackson can't find anything special to P&M about, and he has to keep his name in the paper. It's all he's got left 'cause he used up most of his influence doing other stupid crap.
nickg
12-11-2002, 08:46 AM
as far as i'm concerned this is a non-issue, but OF COURSE the democrats and people like al gore, jesse and al sharpton will run it into the ground for no other reason other than pushing their own agenda.
and really...are there anymore hypocrites towards the plight of the blacks than jesse and sharpton.
not to mention that al gore even has the balls to speak up when you consider his dad was a segregationist and when they would go out to eat, their "black" housekeeper would sit in the car while they dined at a "white" only restaurant.
and good ole' al was reprimanded by black politico cynthia mckinney for having a "low tolerance for blacks"....go figure.
hypocrites indeed!!!!
CinaC
12-11-2002, 09:15 AM
And of course the black Republicans who have been irred at Lott's comments are not mentioned at all. Fascinating.
Was it Williams who said he was present when Lott made the statement, and said he felt "chills" down his back?
shooter1201
12-11-2002, 09:32 AM
If Lott was from a Northern state or from Kalifornia, instead of from Mississippi, would we even be having this conversation now? :rolleyes:
CinaC
12-11-2002, 09:38 AM
I think the debate is over what he said, who he said it in favor of, and that person's politics at the time. Not from what state Lott is from.
shooter1201
12-11-2002, 09:51 AM
My original assertion stands. If this 'statement' had been uttered by a Northern or Californian senator....or by a BLACK senator....this conversation wouldn't be taking place. But because Lott is WHITE and from THE SOUTH, it made 'news'. I love the way 'some people' are always trying to 'read something into a statement', when there's nothing there to read.
Jesse Jackson and all the others 'looking' for yet another reason to be 'angry' at the white race, can go 'take a short walk on a long pier' as far as I'm concerned. If their 'skins' are so sensitive that they can't 'stand the heat', then they need to get out of the 'kitchen'.
If a STRONG conservative had entered into the Presidency at that time, instead of a pseudo-Socialist, America probably wouldn't have experienced a lot of the unpleasantries it did in the 1960s and the left-winged ultra-liberals wouldn't have succeeded in getting a toe-hold in American politics....and ruining this country.
CiaJ, you're too young to remember what America USED to be like. Schools worked, criminals STAYED behind bars and folks could leave their houses unlocked at night. I'm NOT too young.
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CinaC
12-11-2002, 10:43 AM
Because Lott being majority leader has nothing to do with it. C'mon, Shooter ... the most visible in either party are going to take fire for stuff that lesser known politicians won't.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If a STRONG conservative had entered into the Presidency at that time, instead of a pseudo-Socialist, America probably wouldn't have experienced a lot of the unpleasantries it did in the 1960s and the left-winged ultra-liberals wouldn't have succeeded in getting a toe-hold in American politics....and ruining this country.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If it had been Thurmond, running on his anti-desegregation policy, you might today be working in the "White's Only" school. You may believe that Civil Rights marked the "end" of the "old" America, but personally I think that's a bunch of BS.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">CiaJ, you're too young to remember what America USED to be like. Schools worked, criminals STAYED behind bars and folks could leave their houses unlocked at night. I'm NOT too young.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And we all know that Strom Thurmond being elected president would have stopped that!
shooter1201
12-11-2002, 10:46 AM
Do we know he wouldn't have? :D
CinaC
12-11-2002, 11:13 AM
The civil rights movement could not have been stopped. Slowed, perhaps, but never stopped.
I think it is a tribute to the righteousness of the civil rights movement that even George Wallace later recanted his views on the subject of desegregation.
My own opinion on the subject, I don't believe Lott is a racist -- even if he is, I don't believe he is that politically inept to make such a damning statement at the time the Republican Party is trying to appeal to black and minority voters.
Bill R
12-11-2002, 11:42 AM
I don't know if Lott is a racist. I don't think the comment he made about Thurmond would indicate one way or another. Lott was at Thurmond's birthday party after all. It is not uncommon to blow a little smoke up the birthday persons butt.
Crazy,
Was it Williams who said he was present when Lott made the statement, and said he felt "chills" down his back?
I'll admit I haven't heard many details. If Williams was bothered by the statement why was he at Thurmond's B-Day party?
<small>[ 12-11-2002, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: Bill R ]</small>
CinaC
12-11-2002, 12:01 PM
I'd guess he was at Thurmond's birthday party because he did not believe that Thurmond still believed in or would have still supported the policies he endorsed over half-a-century ago, and was perhaps wondering why Lott seemed to do so?
nickg
12-11-2002, 01:36 PM
the thing i don't get is the fact that lott never mentioned anything in PARTICULAR that thurmond did or didn't do/say. so it's automatically ok to ASSUME he was talking about segregation, right?? i mean what else COULD he have meant? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
but yet the libs/dems/blacks continue to rally support for mr kkk byrd. but THAT'S ok because he is "one of us", right again?? just a good ol' democrat boy from the south. he really didn't mean to wear that white hood. besides...that's all in the past, right?? i'm mean...gee, didn't he admit that he knew some white N***ers?? and he stated that he was gonna use that word. and that
Byrd vowed never to fight in the military "with a Negro by my side."
let's call a spade a sp....oops, can't say that!! that's the pot calling the kettle bl...oops, sorry!! what i mean to say is what i said before -- HYPOCRITES!!
as if there weren't any BLACKS there wishing thurmond a happy birthday along with lott. if they were so sensitive, they shouldn't have even been there to show support to such a segregationist racist bast@rd, right one more time???
how long will it take the media to run this non- story into the ground??
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shooter1201
12-11-2002, 01:55 PM
To some, my being born in Alabama and voting conservative, and having ancestors that fought FOR the Confederacy, I MUST be a racist, too.
Just don't tell anyone I eat WHITE bread and drink WHITE milk.... :rolleyes:
BTW...what was wrong with Thurmond's presidential platform when he ran? DO you know what desegregation did to our schools? If not, compare it to having 1 gallon of premium gasoline and 1 gallon of water. Both are fine, just as they are. Now MIX the two. In so doing, BOTH are destroyed.
That's what desegregation did to America's schools.
CinaC
12-11-2002, 01:55 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">. if they were so sensitive, they shouldn't have even been there to show support to such a segregationist racist bast@rd, right one more time???</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nick, no one, except for you, is suggesting that Thurmond is STILL a racist. Or are you saying he is a racist?
PPB8881
12-11-2002, 02:12 PM
I could really give a fu** what Sen Lott said and I don't really care if that old moron thurman
is 100 or 500. I think the whole damm things a joke. I had folks that fought for the north and I don't really care who's a raciest that's thier problem. I live in Cali and there is nothing wrong with this state!
NO NEW TAXES
PPB :D
nickg
12-11-2002, 02:34 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by C in a J:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">. if they were so sensitive, they shouldn't have even been there to show support to such a segregationist racist bast@rd, right one more time???</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nick, no one, except for you, is suggesting that Thurmond is STILL a racist. Or are you saying he is a racist?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i'm saying that the ones that are there supporting thurmond on his birthday are the same ones talking out of the other side of their mouths by calling lott a racist for what he said.
i guess i should have added the <sarcasm> tag to that one.
CinaC
12-11-2002, 04:42 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i'm saying that the ones that are there supporting thurmond on his birthday are the same ones talking out of the other side of their mouths by calling lott a racist for what he said. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Everyone there certainly to support Thurmond, however, Thurmond's politics have certainly changed in the last fifty years. No one will probably ever know why Lott decided to reference Thurmond's failed presidential bid in the way that he did, but unless the party invites said "White Only" I don't see what Lott can't be criticized for his poor taste in jokes.
Oregon Mike
12-11-2002, 04:57 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by C in a J:
<strong>And of course the black Republicans who have been irred at Lott's comments are not mentioned at all. Fascinating.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Have there been any black Republicans who were irred at the statement? JC Watts said specifically that it was a poor choice of words and nothing more. Lott meant no harm by it, and no harm was done.
I think the Democrats' problem is that they think if a person has one bad idea, all of their ideas must be bad. Thurmond was wrong about segregation in 1948, but most of the rest of his policies would have been good for the country. This is exactly what Lott said, he just didn't say it clearly.
Mike
CinaC
12-11-2002, 05:02 PM
IIRC, a black Republican commentator by the name of Williams was at the party, and said that Lott's comments sent a "chill" down his back and a "gasp" across the crowd.
shooter1201
12-11-2002, 05:08 PM
CiaJ....
Besides getting some members of this board 'all fired up....again' :D , what's your interest in this NONstory? It would appear, from the past couple of days, you thrive on controversy. I thought you had a paper to write. :D
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by shooter1201:
<strong>To some, my being born in Alabama and voting conservative, and having ancestors that fought FOR the Confederacy, I MUST be a racist, too.
Just don't tell anyone I eat WHITE bread and drink WHITE milk.... :rolleyes:
BTW...what was wrong with Thurmond's presidential platform when he ran? DO you know what desegregation did to our schools? If not, compare it to having 1 gallon of premium gasoline and 1 gallon of water. Both are fine, just as they are. Now MIX the two. In so doing, BOTH are destroyed.
That's what desegregation did to America's schools.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Mhmmmm, seperate but equal... You must have been crushed when aparthaid in South Africa was rescinded.
I wonder why whites in the Southern U.S can't get along with minorities, here in my little part of California, we have no trouble. In fact *whispers* I have friends who aren't white!!! I mix, I have dirtied myself and I fear no amount of scrubbing will cleanse myself.
I think I'd prefer to think of whites as vanilla ice cream, and blacks as chocolate sauce (the pink cherry can be whatever minority ya want) mix them together and you have something delicious.
Oh yeah, as for the topic at hand... Thurmond did later on support civil rights stuff. People fail to realize that Thurmond was a politician in the truest sense of the word - He was just out there for his own self gain. At the time, the segregation plank was his best bet.
CinaC
12-11-2002, 07:36 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">what's your interest in this NONstory? It would appear, from the past couple of days, you thrive on controversy. I thought you had a paper to write. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What is ANYONE'S interest in this non-story?
I turned the paper in today. :)
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I MUST be a racist, too</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">By virture of what you listed? No. By virture of:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Both are fine, just as they are. Now MIX the two. In so doing, BOTH are destroyed.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's what desegregation did to America's schools.
Very possibly.
Seperate is not equal.
<small>[ 12-11-2002, 07:39 PM: Message edited by: C in a J ]</small>
Mike Tx
12-11-2002, 07:54 PM
So, when did it become illegal and or wrong, calling for some "punishment", to express a racist opinion?
CinaC
12-11-2002, 07:58 PM
Mike,
Illegal? Never. However the Republican Party as an organization may decide to take steps to neutralize the effect of Lott's words. Since the RP is trying to pull in more minority voters, it doesn't do good to have a leader of Lott's stature making statements that can be interpreted as racism.
shooter1201
12-11-2002, 08:14 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I MUST be a racist, too
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By virture of what you listed? No. By virture of:
quote:
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Both are fine, just as they are. Now MIX the two. In so doing, BOTH are destroyed.
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</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hence my 'confusion via facts' quip. :D
I have 515 students, at my disposal, of Anglo, African and Hispanic ancestry that would love to learn that I am a racist. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> So would my best friend in Florida, my school's librarian, who just happened to be Black.
ANYway....I tire of banging my head against the proverbial 'brick wall'.
<small>[ 12-11-2002, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: shooter1201 ]</small>
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by shooter1201:
<strong>
BTW...what was wrong with Thurmond's presidential platform when he ran? DO you know what desegregation did to our schools? If not, compare it to having 1 gallon of premium gasoline and 1 gallon of water. Both are fine, just as they are. Now MIX the two. In so doing, BOTH are destroyed.
That's what desegregation did to America's schools.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why?
Desegregation had to happen so that black children could get an education equal to what white kids had. It really wasn't that blacks were dying to hang with whites. Schools at the time were seperate but NOT EQUAL....Kind of like now.
jellybean40
12-11-2002, 10:53 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by n567:
I think I'd prefer to think of whites as vanilla ice cream, and blacks as chocolate sauce (the pink cherry can be whatever minority ya want) mix them together and you have something delicious.
Oh yeah, as for the topic at hand... Thurmond did later on support civil rights stuff. People fail to realize that Thurmond was a politician in the truest sense of the word - He was just out there for his own self gain. At the time, the segregation plank was his best bet.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree...
and I agree.
the whole post was great, BTW.
<clapping>
nickg
12-12-2002, 08:24 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by C in a J:
<strong>IIRC, a black Republican commentator by the name of Williams was at the party, and said that Lott's comments sent a "chill" down his back and a "gasp" across the crowd.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">and a good boot up the *** will quell any chill going down the back. gaddamn people are too sensitive anymore and try to read what they want to read between the lines and what they perceive people are saying. why not? it makes it look like they are actually doing something important.
nickg
12-12-2002, 08:26 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Mike Tx:
<strong>So, when did it become illegal and or wrong, calling for some "punishment", to express a racist opinion?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ever since the PC POLICE decided it was THEIR job to tell people what to do, say, or think!!
nickg
12-12-2002, 08:47 AM
<a href="http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/12/11/232546" target="_blank">http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/12/11/232546</a>
EXCERPT:
"The AARLC leader said that because of Byrd's position as chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, congressional blacks are loathe to put funding for important programs in jeopardy by speaking out against even the most outrageous racial epithets used by the former Klansman."
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of course they won't say anything about kkk byrd because he oversees what money they get and condemning him would bite the hand that feeds them.
once again i say -- HYPOCRITES!!!
Bill R
12-12-2002, 09:34 AM
Crazy,
However the Republican Party as an organization may decide to take steps to neutralize the effect of Lott's words. Since the RP is trying to pull in more minority voters, it doesn't do good to have a leader of Lott's stature making statements that can be interpreted as racism.
I agree. Of course Lott has a right to say anything he pleases. From the perspective of what is best for the party, I believe we should have a majority leader who can better choose his words.
Niteshift
12-12-2002, 11:03 AM
Other than the fact that his comments were clearly meant to honor Thurmond, not to imply that segregation is the best solution....... :rolleyes:
Has anyone noticed the Daschle reversal?
First he says that he'd accept Lott's explaination. Then, the next day, Lott goes public, makes his explaination and then Daschle starts questioning the sincerity. :rolleyes:
So typical of Dashcle and his ilk. They make me want to vomit.
shooter1201
12-12-2002, 11:30 AM
IMO, Rep. Elijah Cummings(D-MD), the newly appointed Chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, is simply trying to make a name for himself. 'Hey everybody, look at me. I got my feelings hurt and am very upset.'
Cummings needs to pull up his diaper, stick his pacifier back in his mouth and go home. If this is how he reacts whenever someone says something HE is offended by, I'd hate to have to rely on him in a REAL crisis.
BrickCop
12-12-2002, 12:15 PM
Jesse Jackson referred to a city (NY?) as 'hymietown'. Was he asked to resign as a "Reverend" or as leader of his "Rainbow coalition"? The answer is NO. Yet the media quotes him as if he should have a moral say in the Lott controversy. Unreal! :rolleyes:
The media also loves Sharpton who once lead hostile demonstrations and made inflammatory comments about non-african american business owners in NY.
Both these incidents were in the news for a day or two. In no time they were seemingly forgotten and, in a way apparently forgiven by the media. :confused:
Trent Lott will be hounded relentlessly for the rest of his career. I guess the penalty for saying something racially insensitive depends on what race you are.
nickg
12-12-2002, 02:06 PM
the Rev. Peterson. you gotta love this guy. one of the few black conservatives who actually USES HIS HEAD!!!! the sad part is all of the other liberal blacks give him ***** for his views along with the proverbial "uncle tom" "massa' to whitey" tags. at least he has the balls to tell them to shove where the sun don't shine!!
i've never seen this guy NOT call 'em as he sees 'em. and if he continues to p!ss others off, then more power to him.
gee...he seems to call these idiots HYPOCRITES too. :D
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***REV. PETERSON TO SENATOR LOTT: “DON’T GIVE IN TO RACIST DEMOCRATS!***
BOND (Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny) ^ | 12-12-02 | Ermias Alemayehu
“As the head of a nationally recognized nonprofit black organization BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, my organization and I accept Senator Trent Lott’s apology regarding his remarks at Senator Strom Thurmond’s birthday celebration. I encourage the Senator to not give into the demands of racists who want to keep blacks on the Democratic plantation.
Sen. Lott has released a statement and appeared on national media to apologize for his statements. He has explained his statement and the context in which it was made—enough is enough!
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, and the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) are hypocrites and they are the real racists.
Jackson has not apologized for his ‘Hymie’ town comments, nor for his forty years of immoral leadership; Sharpton has never apologized for his role in the Tawana Brawley disgrace; members of the Congressional Black Caucus have never asked fellow Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd to step down for using the word ‘******’ twice on national television.
Black and white Democrats alike who continue to demand that he [Lott] step down are doing so only for political reasons. And Republicans who fail to support him are displaying cowardice. Lott should not step down; he should not offer any more apologies—this matter is done! We should judge people based on their hearts and actions, and unlike many of his detractors, Trent Lott has no history of being a racist.”
nickg
12-12-2002, 02:52 PM
gee...more black conservatives who see the truth. i guess they are just "oreo's" and white racists on the inside like the rest of us white conservative males. :rolleyes:
so this BLACK CONSERVATIVE group actually thinks that the Republicans were the ones who went forward with the Civil Rights Act of 1964??
what are these guys??? more "uncle toms"?? how dare them not give the demokrats their due!!
does this mean that slick willie WASN'T our first black president after all???
:D :D
Bill R
12-12-2002, 02:59 PM
Lott has done a terrible job of leading the Republicans in the Senate. When the Republicans were in the majority the last time all he wanted to do was compromise and share leadership with the Democrats. I think we deserve a stronger leader. It serves Lott right that after all the concessions he made to the Democrats they are calling for his head on a platter.
shooter1201
12-12-2002, 03:15 PM
Another black perspective on Lott's comment:
WARNING! This is a conservative site. Points of view expressed may cause 'panty wadding' in liberals.
<a href="http://www.sierratimes.com/02/12/11/jjjohnson.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sierratimes.com/02/12/11/jjjohnson.htm</a>
shooter1201
12-12-2002, 03:32 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">
Lott's contrition immediately won over Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.
"He spoke of the exuberance of just making a 100-year-old man feel good," Pence said.
But Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick, D-Mich., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said she wasn't so convinced.
"I am thankful for the senator's apology. He needed to do that," Kilpatrick told Fox News.
"But we need leadership to bring us together, not tear us apart and I am not sure he can do that," she said, describing Lott's remarks as "outrageous" and "disgusting."
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Who's doing the 'tearing apart'? It isn't Lott.
<a href="http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72598,00.html" target="_blank">http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72598,00.html</a>
nickg
12-12-2002, 04:11 PM
unfortunately too many of these people believe their own horse*****.
MadMax
12-16-2002, 12:12 PM
Lott has done a terrible job of leading the Republicans in the Senate. When the Republicans were in the majority the last time all he wanted to do was compromise and share leadership with the Democrats. I think we deserve a stronger leader. It serves Lott right that after all the concessions he made to the Democrats they are calling for his head on a platter.
It is my opinion that Lott has said nothing wrong. The PC police are using this to further their cause.
Like Bill, I feel that Lott is a weak leader and needs to go. He is a sell out pure and simple.
<a href="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin.html" target="_blank">http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin.html</a>
CinaC
12-16-2002, 12:28 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It serves Lott right that after all the concessions he made to the Democrats they are calling for his head on a platter. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">For the same reason, it doesn't matter how much Bush talks highly of Daschle or Ted Kennedy when they support him on a bill, when it comes down to it, Republicans stab Dems in the back and vice versa. Bi-partisanship is BS.
Bill R
12-16-2002, 12:34 PM
Crazy:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bi-partisanship is BS. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wow, that's twice in one thread I agree with you!
CinaC
12-16-2002, 12:54 PM
That explains why Satan was loading up his minivan with hockey equipment ...
Traffic_Goddess
12-16-2002, 03:09 PM
You should be ashamed...."Satan" and hockey don't belong in the same sentence or thought.
Kinda like Thurman and the United Negro College Fund,
or Bin Laden and the Hatfield Company,
or Mike & NA beer.....LOL
Chief Wiggum
12-16-2002, 04:25 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by shooter1201:
<strong>To some, my being born in Alabama and voting conservative, and having ancestors that fought FOR the Confederacy, I MUST be a racist, too.
Just don't tell anyone I eat WHITE bread and drink WHITE milk.... :rolleyes:
BTW...what was wrong with Thurmond's presidential platform when he ran? DO you know what desegregation did to our schools? If not, compare it to having 1 gallon of premium gasoline and 1 gallon of water. Both are fine, just as they are. Now MIX the two. In so doing, BOTH are destroyed.
That's what desegregation did to America's schools.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm sorry I must be imagining things. Are you actually arguing AGAINST desegregation?
I agree that Lott probably isn't the strongest leader that the Senate Republicans could have. However, he should not step down because of a few poorly chosen words at a birthday party! something else to consider is that, last I heard, to only elected Republican official on Capitol Hill who is calling for him to resign as Senate Majority Leader is Majority Whip Don Nickles who, by the way, is likely to assume Lott's position if he resigns. As one who has worked on Capitol three times, I can completly understand how Lott got caught up in the moment and used a poor choice of words. As JC Watts stated, he apolgized and that should be the end of the subject.
I was watching BET last night. After the "interview" (it was more like a grilling) with Lott, they had reactions to it. Watching that program reminded me that this is nothing more than a LEFT WING WITCH HUNT!!! They went after Ashcroft claiming that he was a racist (never mind the fact that he supported several black judicial nominess in MO :rolleyes: ), then they went after and blocked Charles Pickering making the same outrageous claims after he risked his life to put away dangerous members of the KKK in 1960's Mississippi <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> ! They've gone after several others as well using the baseless charges of so-called "racism". Now they are chasing after Trent Lott. In the 1950's, if you so much as said that you like the color red, several McCarthyist would start shaking the finger in your face calling you a "communist". Today, if you so much as say something that could easily be misinterepreted, or if you disagree with the slightest thing that the black establishment does,you could easily be deemed "racist" by the liberal left! :mad: :rolleyes:
Jesse Jackson must NOT get the satisfaction of seeing Lott resign. The Republicans must stand their ground against these left wing, bigoted McCarthyists and let them know that enough is enough!! :mad:
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shooter1201
12-17-2002, 05:31 PM
One quick question....
Will the politician that has never screwed up on camera, said something he/she perhaps shouldn't have said, etc, PLEASE stand up? :rolleyes: :mad:
Bill R
12-17-2002, 05:48 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by shooter1201:
<strong>One quick question....
Will the politician that has never screwed up on camera, said something he/she perhaps shouldn't have said, etc, PLEASE stand up? :rolleyes: :mad: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There are none. I've thought Lott was a poor/weak leader for a long time. While I think his comment has been given way too much importance, the constant exposure is not doing the party any good. If Lott had been a good leader and worked hard pressing the party agenda then he would be worth taking some flak over. He hasn't. The Republicans in the Senate have been way too wimpy. The House Republicans have done their part but the Senate has let us down in the past. It's time for some new blood.
Shooter, what do you think of Thompson?
MadMax
12-17-2002, 06:39 PM
I would have a lot more respect for the man if stuck to his guns. IMO he should quit apologizing, once is enough. This nonsense that he has been spewing on CNN and BET and FOX is disgusting, he is selling out his constituents, etc., for his own gain.
Mike Tx
12-17-2002, 08:11 PM
Talking head today said that Lott should not have said what he said, and that it's good to know what he thinks. He said that we need to find out what other people think like this, make them say what they think and then get rid of them. I heard it the radio on the way home today.
DARECOP
12-20-2002, 02:02 PM
Last time I checked we live in a place called AMERICA and a man has the right to say what he wants right or wrong!!!
GOD Bless AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
MadMax
12-22-2002, 01:09 AM
DareCop,
I agree, but for once I would like to see a politician stick to his guns, when he says something that is not popular.
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