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justin_link
09-30-2008, 10:52 AM
Where do they get some of these people from, seriously? They reinvite people to come back after being separated for goofing off. I am looking into the idea of moving to CA to become a LASD or a LAPD officer. Is it really that easy to get into a LASD academy class? Granted, some of them on the show are truly dedicated to becoming a deputy, but what is with some of these people? People who can't speak english, people who straight up cannot complete PT... am I missing something? Forgive me for being harsh, but I am just trying to understand this before I attempt to secure a career with either of these departments. The LAPD and LASD seem like exciting career choices and I would love to give both a shot.
Protect-N-Serve
09-30-2008, 11:11 AM
Where do they get some of these people from, seriously? They reinvite people to come back after being separated for goofing off. I am looking into the idea of moving to CA to become a LASD or a LAPD officer. Is it really that easy to get into a LASD academy class? Granted, some of them on the show are truly dedicated to becoming a deputy, but what is with some of these people? People who can't speak english, people who straight up cannot complete PT... am I missing something? Forgive me for being harsh, but I am just trying to understand this before I attempt to secure a career with either of these departments. The LAPD and LASD seem like exciting career choices and I would love to give both a shot.
Every class, no matter where you go has its troubled recruits. Tv is meant to make things more dramatic than they really are. You seem quick to judge, be more accepting of who your fellow recruits may be, because when a Drill Instructor is up in your face or anothers and the whole class pays for it, you learn to set aside petty differences such as not talking english so well quickly to work together.
justin_link
09-30-2008, 12:00 PM
Every class, no matter where you go has its troubled recruits. Tv is meant to make things more dramatic than they really are. You seem quick to judge, be more accepting of who your fellow recruits may be, because when a Drill Instructor is up in your face or anothers and the whole class pays for it, you learn to set aside petty differences such as not talking english so well quickly to work together.
Oh I am not trying to judge anyone, but the point I am trying to make is that doesn't it make a department look bad, especially televised, when recruits from an academy class pull the stuff that some of these recruits pull? I understand that everyone is supposed to work together, but some of these people that come back for the second and third times still don't have their crap down, and still slide through the academy, and then become deputies (according to the show, of course; I look past the drama aspect and focus simply on how the recruits act).
Like I asked, maybe I am missing something? I have no bias towards anyone, but sometimes I feel like they are too easy on some of them. Yes, if I were there in the class I am sure I would feel differently, but for the citizens living in LA county, watching this show, saying, "these are the people that are out on the street protecting me..." how do those people feel to see recruits goofing around in class, barely passing the academy by a hair, and then being let out on the street with a gun and a badge?
Once again, no disrespect towards anyone. I am an aspiring LEO, and just wanted to know if anyone had any insight into these programs. I am not talking down the LASD, but am confused as to the treatment of problem recruits.
pulicords
09-30-2008, 12:27 PM
I believe standards have been seriously lowered, for two reasons. First, when the economy was doing well it was difficult to find and hire good people. Second, unrealistic hiring goals (quotas) for hiring women and minorities were extremely difficult to meet. The result is that people are being retained in the academy now, who would have been let go when I attended LASD's academy in the mid 70's. If you have a hard time meeting those hiring goals, you don't want to lose the few you find. We had an approximately 50% drop out/discharge rate then and now it's less than 10%.
Additionally, when I attended the academy, "recycles" were allowed for only a few extreme circumstances (ie: physical injuries incurred during training). Someone found failing to secure their firearm in a personal vehicle or locker was immediately fired. (It happened in my class and there wasn't any ifs, ands or buts about the decision!) Far more trainees failed to pass the academy because the departments didn't want to waste valuable resources during the recruits probationary training period in the field. Now, it's almost a given that the academy will be passed, new officers spend much more time with their field training officers and are less likely to be discharged even if they don't meet standards.
justin_link
09-30-2008, 12:33 PM
I believe standards have been seriously lowered, for two reasons. First, when the economy was doing well it was difficult to find and hire good people. Second, unrealistic hiring goals (quotas) for hiring women and minorities were extremely difficult to meet. The result is that people are being retained in the academy now, who would have been let go when I attended LASD's academy in the mid 70's. If you have a hard time meeting those hiring goals, you don't want to lose the few you find. We had an approximately 50% drop out/discharge rate then and now it's less than 10%.
Additionally, when I attended the academy, "recycles" were allowed for only a few extreme circumstances (ie: physical injuries incurred during training). Someone found failing to secure their firearm in a personal vehicle or locker was immediately fired. (It happened in my class and there wasn't any ifs, ands or buts about the decision!) Far more trainees failed to pass the academy because the departments didn't want to waste valuable resources during the recruits probationary training period in the field. Now, it's almost a given that the academy will be passed, new officers spend much more time with their field training officers and are less likely to be discharged even if they don't meet standards.
Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. I had a feeling that they weren't as lenient as they are now. This question spawned from watching the show on Hulu.com, and one of the carpools of recruits left their weapons unsecured, so the DIs took them and hid them in another officer's vehicle, and all that happened was a write up. God forbid that ever happens again to them, but it's good that it happened in the academy and not out in the field. I agree, being responsible and accountable is one of the first things a LEO should be, even before training begins. It's good to hear a response from someone who has been through it in the past. I am going to put an app in and see how it goes! I cannot judge the department based on a few recruits' performance, because the department is still one of the best in the nation.
LA DEP
09-30-2008, 12:37 PM
This has been rehashed so many times it isnt funny......
The show focuses on the 'lightning rods' in each class.....those that stick out and get special attention from the DIs......
Recycles have been allowed for many years in our academy.....unless you get tossed for integrity issues, or something major, they are going to tell you to come back and try again if you want to.
For the last few years, we have been focused on hiring NUMBERS.....we were short over 2K Deputies at one point, and have been hiring like mad to make up the shortfall. Now, we are in a hiring slowdown, and are becoming much pickier about the recruits that are hired
Blackavar
09-30-2008, 01:26 PM
...because when a Drill Instructor is up in your face or anothers and the whole class pays for it, you learn to set aside petty differences such as not talking english so well quickly to work together.
errrr....No. That is not a "petty difference" and I will not set it aside. If you can not properly ennunciate then I don't want you in an emergency situation. I need people on my team who can lead units to me (or them) when help is needed. Accents get thicker during stressful situations too.
I too have watched the LASO academy on their program and have been disappointed in the quality of some of the recruits.
ChRdy21799
09-30-2008, 04:03 PM
What channel does this show come on?
Retired96
09-30-2008, 04:10 PM
Considering that I came on LASD over 38 years ago, I feel that about 95% of those recruits never would have been hired for my class. I watched both seasons on Hulu and all I can say is that I'm glad that I am retired. The standards for new recruits is sad.
avaand
09-30-2008, 06:34 PM
Any response in defence of LASO and their hiring of recruits, at least some of those on that show, is futile. Integrity???? What about the guy who lied on his medical about having a quadrupal bi-pass and almost died during Will to Survive training and had to be taken away in a county paid ambulance to a county paid hospital? He was told by the LT. that separated him that he hopes to see him back for the next class!! WTF??? Not only did he lie to the point where he put his own life in danger but also that of his partners on the streets. The county doctor actually believed him when he told him the giant scar on his chest was from a motorcycle accident. And, gee, what a thorough background check of medical records the county must have made. They missed that he had a huge, dangerous, debilitating surgery that he had to have been in the hospital for a week at least? When I saw that, I knew that was not the place getting my application...
Blackavar
09-30-2008, 07:12 PM
You can't judge the academy as a whole from one person. If that was the case you would have to discount attending any academy.
WPD954
09-30-2008, 07:28 PM
errrr....No. That is not a "petty difference" and I will not set it aside. If you can not properly ennunciate then I don't want you in an emergency situation. I need people on my team who can lead units to me (or them) when help is needed. Accents get thicker during stressful situations too.
I too have watched the LASO academy on their program and have been disappointed in the quality of some of the recruits.
I'm with you 100 % on this one....
avaand
09-30-2008, 07:44 PM
Quote: "You can't judge the academy as a whole from one person. If that was the case you would have to discount attending any academy."
One person being the guy who lied or the Lt.? The Lt. was basically telling this guy, "Hey, I know you lied to everyone and put lives in danger including your own, and I know your integrity on the stand and anywhere else has been permanently shot, and I know we did a lousy job in our background, but we'd love to have you back for the next academy!"
My point is that there are people on these boards and elsewhere that are worried about being DQ'd for hemroids and then there's this guy. That episode told the world that you can tell a huge, life threatening lie, and that's okay with LASO...
Blackavar
09-30-2008, 07:49 PM
You show me that guy back at the academy and I will agree with you. But he is not there now and I don't think he ever will be
syphon157
09-30-2008, 07:53 PM
Considering that I came on LASD over 38 years ago, I feel that about 95% of those recruits never would have been hired for my class. I watched both seasons on Hulu and all I can say is that I'm glad that I am retired. The standards for new recruits is sad.
Did you happen to read the ALADS article last issue from Deputy Galarneau (sp). His article was about this very topic. He posed this question, when you came onto the department, or any department for that matter, weren't the old timers saying the same thing about you and the new guys? Now look were those "new" guys are? I bet you will find some damn fine deputies and officers. Just a thought.
Don951
09-30-2008, 10:47 PM
Every class, no matter where you go has its troubled recruits. Tv is meant to make things more dramatic than they really are. You seem quick to judge, be more accepting of who your fellow recruits may be, because when a Drill Instructor is up in your face or anothers and the whole class pays for it, you learn to set aside petty differences such as not talking english so well quickly to work together.
How has the CA position been for you? Any word on the academy for DST next year?
justin_link
09-30-2008, 11:19 PM
Anyone wanting to watch it... http://www.hulu.com and then click on browse TV shows, then The Academy. Both seasons are up there.
That guy who lied about the surgery, in an interview, said that he doesn't think he will return. This is after he "moved out there to be a deputy." I don't think I would return either, or ever apply to another department again. Bonehead. What about the girl in the second season who is 1 year out of recovering from cancer, throws up a few days in a row, spends ONE day in a hospital, and is back in the academy the next day, still complaining about feeling queezy and nauseas. It seems a bit dangerous to me, perhaps a bit too dangerous.
justin_link
09-30-2008, 11:21 PM
What channel does this show come on?
It originally aired on Fox Reality, but now is available for immediate viewing at http://www.hulu.com.
mdrdep
09-30-2008, 11:24 PM
There was brass at the LASD Academy that believed every chance should be given to pass some recruits. However POST disagreed and the dept. found egg on their face, guess what all the brass has changed over at the academy and supposedly the same mistakes will not be made again (but I wouldn't hold my breath over it).
serenade84
10-01-2008, 01:36 AM
Just keep in mind, that The Academy IS a TV show and who knows how much the producer "planted" anything in the show. Everything is exaggerated for rating purposes. I'm sure if the cameras weren't there, it would be different.
justin_link
10-01-2008, 08:58 AM
Just keep in mind, that The Academy IS a TV show and who knows how much the producer "planted" anything in the show. Everything is exaggerated for rating purposes. I'm sure if the cameras weren't there, it would be different.
What is it that the producer could have "planted" in the show? All of the recruits' shortcomings were their own individual shortcomings and I doubt that the producer would interfere to the point of a recruit getting tossed/kept. That is something I'm sure the department would strictly be against.
The DIs seem awesome, but it's definitely not them making the calls. It's Sgt. Wilkins and above making the judgement calls.
jarod1905
10-01-2008, 09:39 AM
Just keep in mind, that The Academy IS a TV show and who knows how much the producer "planted" anything in the show. Everything is exaggerated for rating purposes. I'm sure if the cameras weren't there, it would be different.
oh yeah really huh.... i forgot you were in that class to know that...
if you don't know anything about the academy classes being filmed just stay quiet...don't start throwing your ridiculous thoughts out there...
....and for some of you out there, there is a little thing called "editing"..think about it
bigcitypolice06
10-01-2008, 04:08 PM
What I don't understand is why they let them film the show at all. Anyone who has been through an academy can tell you there are idiots there...I would just prefer the general public didn't know it...then again we had Life on the Beat for a few years so...
Blackavar
10-01-2008, 06:04 PM
oh yeah really huh.... i forgot you were in that class to know that...
if you don't know anything about the academy classes being filmed just stay quiet...don't start throwing your ridiculous thoughts out there...
....and for some of you out there, there is a little thing called "editing"..think about it
Jarod, lighten up.
serenade84
10-01-2008, 08:55 PM
Jarod, lighten up.
Haha. I don't think they had anything to do with anyone coming or going. All I was saying is that when editing, they place different scenes together to make that particular situation seem WAY crazing than it was. There are a ton of complete idiots who don't deserve to be there that's for sure. But like I said earlier, I'm sure it's different without those cameras there.
siryessir
10-01-2008, 10:05 PM
I think that girl is in the LASD website on the now hiring banner.
Mtoledo
10-01-2008, 11:04 PM
Yeah it may seem that some of those people in the academy should not be there. But I would love to be in the position they're in. Being in the academy that is.
justin_link
10-02-2008, 09:51 AM
Yeah it may seem that some of those people in the academy should not be there. But I would love to be in the position they're in. Being in the academy that is.
Agreed.
siryessir
10-02-2008, 05:12 PM
Especially that sleepy guy from the first season. Had no idea what a 10-33 was.
avalon42
10-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Think about the ones that are genuinely in it to join LE, not to be sensationalized on TV...AND having to deal with knucklehead actions of their classmates. I feel bad for them.
ChRdy21799
10-02-2008, 07:23 PM
I watched all of Season 1 last night; yeah talk about addicting, haha. It was pretty good.
Stugotz
10-02-2008, 07:23 PM
On this topic I will only say this:
It PAINS me to see recruits drop the first day, or after the first PT session, or when they get yelled at a little, because they took an academy spot that another person with heart could have had. For certain applicants it's especially painful now, with the hiring slowdown and "current temporary hiring goals" they're fulfilling.
avalon42
10-02-2008, 07:27 PM
On this topic I will only say this:
It PAINS me to see recruits drop the first day, or after the first PT session, or when they get yelled at a little, because they took an academy spot that another person with heart could have had. For certain applicants it's especially painful now, with the hiring slowdown and "current temporary hiring goals" they're fulfilling.
Amen.
Mtoledo
10-02-2008, 10:02 PM
On this topic I will only say this:
It PAINS me to see recruits drop the first day, or after the first PT session, or when they get yelled at a little, because they took an academy spot that another person with heart could have had. For certain applicants it's especially painful now, with the hiring slowdown and "current temporary hiring goals" they're fulfilling.
I feel you man!
justin_link
10-02-2008, 11:46 PM
On this topic I will only say this:
It PAINS me to see recruits drop the first day, or after the first PT session, or when they get yelled at a little, because they took an academy spot that another person with heart could have had. For certain applicants it's especially painful now, with the hiring slowdown and "current temporary hiring goals" they're fulfilling.
Agreed 4985934809580%. You gotta have the heart and the soul, and those recruits had neither.
ChRdy21799
10-03-2008, 12:03 AM
Are they doing a Season 3?
Flanker
10-03-2008, 12:17 AM
I was under the impression that this show was a perfect representation of the LASD Academy...
But I guess I was wrong.
What do you know...something on TV being inaccurate.
Stugotz
10-03-2008, 12:28 AM
It is comforting to know one is not alone in this struggle. Thanks y'all :)
Keep the Faith,
~Stugotz
avalon42
10-03-2008, 02:24 AM
Agreed 4985934809580%. You gotta have the heart and the soul, and those recruits had neither.
Ionno. The thought processes of some of them were just questionable. C'mon man, officer safety!
I don't want someone giving me cover that is NOT COVERING me.
ChRdy21799
10-03-2008, 11:28 AM
I watched clips of Season 2 last night. The last episode, after their graduation, some went right into Patrol; making arrests, building searches, etc. Is that normal, I thought with LASD you go into the Jails first? Maybe I'm wrong....just curious.
cruz0311
10-03-2008, 11:46 AM
They just went on a uniformed ride along, the day after they graduated. Then the next week they checked in to jail operations.
Wishfull thinking about going to patrol after the academy, those guys are looking at some time in the jails, with the hiring slow down coupled with the fact that they are pushing females to patrol sooner. Some of my buddies from my class that are on the top of the list to Temple, got skiped over by females who were lower on the list. (bouman v. baca consent decree)
Five-0fromSoCal
10-03-2008, 11:55 AM
I watched clips of Season 2 last night. The last episode, after their graduation, some went right into Patrol; making arrests, building searches, etc. Is that normal, I thought with LASD you go into the Jails first? Maybe I'm wrong....just curious.
Actually within the last two years, some have graduated and gone to patrol within six months. Depends on the station you want. New female recruits also might be going straight to patrol depending on the station I was told. Our dept has a shortage of females out in the streets.
Stugotz
10-03-2008, 12:09 PM
Wishfull thinking about going to patrol after the academy, those guys are looking at some time in the jails, with the hiring slow down coupled with the fact that they are pushing females to patrol sooner. Some of my buddies from my class that are on the top of the list to Temple, got skiped over by females who were lower on the list. (bouman v. baca consent decree)
:mad::rolleyes:
Stugotz
10-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Actually within the last two years, some have graduated and gone to patrol within six months. Depends on the station you want.
Would that be TSB, Malibu, Lakewood, Lancaster, and Palmdale? Those are the rumored ones anyway . . . .
Bigtexan44
10-03-2008, 12:19 PM
That's BS sending females out before males who are more qualified. If I was one of those male officers and knew for a fact this was happening, there would be a lawsuit awaiting the department.
LA DEP
10-03-2008, 12:26 PM
That's BS sending females out before males who are more qualified. If I was one of those male officers and knew for a fact this was happening, there would be a lawsuit awaiting the department.
and your lawsuit would be summarily dismissed.......this is a result of a federal consent decree......we are being ORDERED to do this by a federal judge......
Trust me....our union has tried to fight this....the judge more or less threw them out of his courtroom.....
Bigtexan44
10-03-2008, 12:38 PM
That's ridiculous, I don't understand how that can be possible. (Well I kinda do understand "darn federal judges".) That is soo discrimination and just doesn't make a lot of sense.
LA DEP
10-03-2008, 12:45 PM
That's ridiculous, I don't understand how that can be possible. (Well I kinda do understand "darn federal judges".) That is soo discrimination and just doesn't make a lot of sense.
It would take a book to explain it.....
short version is that the Department discriminated against female deputies in the 70s/early 80s.....a federal lawsuit was filed (Bouman vs LASD)......this was drug on for YEARS and could have been (and should have been) settled out much earlier with fewer repercussions......
end result was the federal judge got POed and slapped a consent decree on the department.....and every time the department tried to appeal it, he slapped even MORE restrictions on......
The female deps getting preference to go to patrol is just the latest chapter in this saga....it has been going on for over 15 years......
There is no 'discrimination' because it is being done at a federal judges order.....
LA DEP
10-03-2008, 12:51 PM
also, I should add that the latest things that are being done (getting more females hired and out to patrol) is an attempt to FINALLY get out from under the thumb of the consent decree.....hopefully before 2012......
pulicords
10-03-2008, 01:13 PM
A "Consent Decree" without consent is just an order. :mad:
LA Copper
10-04-2008, 02:17 AM
Agreed 4985934809580%. You gotta have the heart and the soul, and those recruits had neither.
It would seem to me that the female cancer patient had a LOT of heart. She didn't have to go to the academy but she wanted to be a deputy and gave it her all, even after she got sick, now that is heart! I give her a lot of credit and would want a deputy or officer like her as my partner.
I wish her well and hope she is able to finish her career.
krispykreme
10-04-2008, 03:42 PM
On this topic I will only say this:
It PAINS me to see recruits drop the first day, or after the first PT session, or when they get yelled at a little, because they took an academy spot that another person with heart could have had. For certain applicants it's especially painful now, with the hiring slowdown and "current temporary hiring goals" they're fulfilling.
this is exactly how i feel.. especially when people go that are out of shape.. some of us want this career really bad while others simply go to the testing to "give it a try" and end up actually making it while we keep getting push back.. at least thats how i feel...
They just went on a uniformed ride along, the day after they graduated. Then the next week they checked in to jail operations.
Wishfull thinking about going to patrol after the academy, those guys are looking at some time in the jails, with the hiring slow down coupled with the fact that they are pushing females to patrol sooner. Some of my buddies from my class that are on the top of the list to Temple, got skiped over by females who were lower on the list. (bouman v. baca consent decree)
that is just wrong :mad:... i wonder how laso deputies feel about this?... so even if im a excellent deputy i can get passed up by an average female.. either way i would still love to be a part of laso..
justin_link
10-04-2008, 07:30 PM
It would seem to me that the female cancer patient had a LOT of heart. She didn't have to go to the academy but she wanted to be a deputy and gave it her all, even after she got sick, now that is heart! I give her a lot of credit and would want a deputy or officer like her as my partner.
I wish her well and hope she is able to finish her career.
I respectfully disagree. She is unfit to be an officer. What would happen if she was chasing an armed suspect and all of a sudden her cancer reared its ugly head, and she started throwing up? What if she was in a hand to hand battle with an armed suspect? What if the suspect wasn't armed? He sure will be after she starts vomiting and passes out.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't feel safe about someone with a negative, current medical history on the streets patrolling my neighborhood.
So, I disagree, I would not want her as my partner. I'm sure shes a great gal, but would I physically be able to rely on her? Absolutely not. It's unfortunate, but the truth.
edit: I just read that you are a LAPD officer. Please understand that this is only my opinion, and I am sure you have experience in the field that may disprove it. ;)
doc_holiday
10-04-2008, 11:06 PM
I respectfully disagree. She is unfit to be an officer. What would happen if she was chasing an armed suspect and all of a sudden her cancer reared its ugly head, and she started throwing up? What if she was in a hand to hand battle with an armed suspect? What if the suspect wasn't armed? He sure will be after she starts vomiting and passes out.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't feel safe about someone with a negative, current medical history on the streets patrolling my neighborhood.
So, I disagree, I would not want her as my partner. I'm sure shes a great gal, but would I physically be able to rely on her? Absolutely not. It's unfortunate, but the truth.
edit: I just read that you are a LAPD officer. Please understand that this is only my opinion, and I am sure you have experience in the field that may disprove it. ;)
I agree with you. Heart is important but she was also a fat body who didn't look like she was under the BF % requirement. She fell back on numerous runs at a modest pace so in reality what happens if there is jail riot or you are in foot pursuit? Can she catch a fleeing suspect at 10 mpm pace? To me, she is what happens when you have quotas. Most of the people in that class were unfit and an instructor told me that they were a bunch of whiners.
LA Copper
10-04-2008, 11:11 PM
I respectfully disagree. She is unfit to be an officer. What would happen if she was chasing an armed suspect and all of a sudden her cancer reared its ugly head, and she started throwing up? What if she was in a hand to hand battle with an armed suspect? What if the suspect wasn't armed? He sure will be after she starts vomiting and passes out.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't feel safe about someone with a negative, current medical history on the streets patrolling my neighborhood.
So, I disagree, I would not want her as my partner. I'm sure shes a great gal, but would I physically be able to rely on her? Absolutely not. It's unfortunate, but the truth.
edit: I just read that you are a LAPD officer. Please understand that this is only my opinion, and I am sure you have experience in the field that may disprove it. ;)
Hi there,
Considering you are only 21-years-old and not an officer working the street, it does not surprise me that we have different opinions.
This deputy has a lot of heart and if she makes it through, she deserves a chance. She is overcoming a setback and doing it with conviction... more power to her! If she can't make it, the academy will weed her out. LASD is a respected agency here in southern California. If she deserves a chance, they'll give it to her. If she doesn't, they'll allow her to leave gracefully.
I have seen more than one "able bodied" officer go down and or just give up. How do you know that the aneurysm that you or anyone else has but doesn't know it, isn't going to rear it's ugly head at just the wrong time? My point is that anything's possible with anyone. If she proves herself in the academy then more power to her. It shows she has that heart that you spoke of previously.
PS. I'm from Massachusetts too.
justin_link
10-05-2008, 11:47 AM
Hi there,
Considering you are only 21-years-old and not an officer working the street, it does not surprise me that we have different opinions.
This deputy has a lot of heart and if she makes it through, she deserves a chance. She is overcoming a setback and doing it with conviction... more power to her! If she can't make it, the academy will weed her out. LASD is a respected agency here in southern California. If she deserves a chance, they'll give it to her. If she doesn't, they'll allow her to leave gracefully.
I have seen more than one "able bodied" officer go down and or just give up. How do you know that the aneurysm that you or anyone else has but doesn't know it, isn't going to rear it's ugly head at just the wrong time? My point is that anything's possible with anyone. If she proves herself in the academy then more power to her. It shows she has that heart that you spoke of previously.
PS. I'm from Massachusetts too.
So we agree to disagree. Whereabouts in MA?
All I'm saying is that if she suffers during a controlled PT setting in the academy, it is that much more likely to affect her in an uncontrolled setting, i.e. a foot pursuit.
LA Copper
10-05-2008, 01:52 PM
So we agree to disagree. Whereabouts in MA?
All I'm saying is that if she suffers during a controlled PT setting in the academy, it is that much more likely to affect her in an uncontrolled setting, i.e. a foot pursuit.
Good idea, let's agree to disagree.. Except that I have a "bit" more experience at this type of thing than you do. Plus, the original topic was having the heart to get through the academy and do the job. This girl first persevered through having cancer and now is trying to overcome that hardship. She could have just given up like others in her class did but she didn't, she pushed on, just like we would need to do on the street when fighting with a suspect whose only goal is to kill you. She is the definition of having heart.
Jon Lester is a good example of what we're talking about here. From what you're saying, the Red Sox should not have kept him since he had cancer and might fall off the mound or get hit by a pitch or something similar. That might cost the team millions of dollars and a potential World Series. While I understand pitching is not the same as working the streets as a police officer, the analogy is the same.
I'm from the South Shore, how about you?
LA Copper
10-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Justin link, where'd you go?
syphon157
10-08-2008, 04:32 PM
Justin link, where'd you go?
To Anaheim to laugh at the Angels?
eviioiive
10-27-2008, 05:50 PM
eviioiive.
MT2658
10-27-2008, 06:44 PM
Now the producer of the LASD academy show has requested to do one for firefighters. My guess is it wouldn't make them look as bad. They want to review the video and omit anything that may embarrass the dept.
eviioiive
10-27-2008, 07:23 PM
eviioiive.
Citizen85
06-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Integrity???? What about the guy who lied on his medical about having a quadrupal bi-pass and almost died during Will to Survive training and had to be taken away in a county paid ambulance to a county paid hospital? He was told by the LT. that separated him that he hopes to see him back for the next class!! WTF???
Sorry I am about a year late to that party.....comment removed.
It's an entertaining show.
I'm going to miss watching the LASD academy. It was funny as hell watching that show.
LAC_LE
06-02-2009, 01:59 PM
The Academy TV show was canceled?
hankido2000
06-02-2009, 02:06 PM
I heard there were other LASD based reality shows in post production.
MidnightBlue
06-02-2009, 02:18 PM
The Academy TV show was canceled?
Yep. Class 368 was the last season. Audiences get bored quickly, and there's only so much they can really show without crossing some lines. That and I heard there haven't been any LASD sponsored recruits in a while.
Enroute540
06-03-2009, 09:48 AM
they are doing a season 3 with the Orange County Fire Dept.
http://www.realitytvfans.com/2009/02/23/fox-reality-channel-announces-season-3-of-the-academy.html
BPApplicant
06-10-2009, 12:18 PM
I'm going to miss watching the LASD academy. It was funny as hell watching that show.
I watched the first two (2) seasons. That's all there was, right? Great show, it was fun watching all the "rocks."
- Option
Five-0fromSoCal
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
I heard there were other LASD based reality shows in post production.
Ya, there were a few LASD based reality shows that were in the works. Haven't heard anything recently though.
Go to www.hulu.com and watch the reruns for free. That was one entertaining show!
Blackavar
06-10-2009, 07:59 PM
they are doing a season 3 with the Orange County Fire Dept.
http://www.realitytvfans.com/2009/02/23/fox-reality-channel-announces-season-3-of-the-academy.html
Awesome! They can show how OCFA gets trained to stage!
LAC_LE
06-10-2009, 08:28 PM
Ya, there were a few LASD based reality shows that were in the works. Haven't heard anything recently though.
I don't know if it's a new show (probably isn't), but the series L.A. Detectives on CI Network is a reality series following LASD detectives.
Yeah, I'll miss The Academy, too....
ExSDSO
07-11-2009, 10:25 PM
Until uve had cancer and had a qualified medical doctor tell you...you will die, then I dont think anyone here can judge the Deputy who made it.
So you people be thankful for your good health and careers. Times are tough as it is...what more when if you had cancer and no job.
PS just watched some episodes of The Academy and it brought back memories. lol so I searched for the thread to read some posts about it cuz I remember some being posted.
Justin Link...dont be a hater. Good luck to you.
DOAcop38
07-12-2009, 02:09 PM
So we agree to disagree. Whereabouts in MA?
All I'm saying is that if she suffers during a controlled PT setting in the academy, it is that much more likely to affect her in an uncontrolled setting, i.e. a foot pursuit.
Justin- you have to understand that , if not for the Cancer, that DSA would probably have the mental and PHYISICAL ability to successfully complete the grueling training and process to become a LASD Deputy. Having had TWO co-workers DIE from cancer ( one actually made it through the equally harsh Rio Hondo Police academy while struggling with the first stage of the disease, only to succumb to it a yr and a half later as a patrol officer), I would not go as far as overly "judge" someones determination. And like LA Copper, I too have watched the "able bodied" PUNK OUT when pushed to the limit.
Maybe one day you'll actually "know" or experience what it takes ...
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