The Next New York State Police Test

[GeneralMelchid]

Anybody now when the next State Police test is, i heard 2011, every 4 years as such, already took the one on January 19th of this year, got an 82, which sucks. Im going to end up being in the NYPD, but being a statie is/was my first choice. http://www.emtbravophotos.com/SpyShots/NYSP2.jpg

[k85o911]

welll i have a masters in crj with 3.9 gpa and failed the state police

[k85o911]

and i knew all the answers for the math and english

[GeneralMelchid]

k85 why what did you get, for me what stumped me was the fragin math at the end. Me i stupidly didn't sign up for westchester, beacuse i waited to long, waited well after i put all the test i have signed up for and taken on the apd 5 of the numerous forms we have to fill out for nypd, and i didn't want to amend the goddam thing again.

[GeneralMelchid]

And wasn't it nice when in June we finally got the answers to if we passed the test, and we all tried to log on at the same time and crashed the god dam system, good times. haha

[SlowDownThere]

The date of the next state police exam is not set. Anyone who tells you that they know the date is either the Director of Human Resources or a liar.

Ok. that's too harsh, they could be someone making a guess. But nobody knows.

[GeneralMelchid]

well there goes that idea, Pennsylvania is still hiring though. Could always do Nypd Highway after a few years on the job

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8601/zni7.jpg

[DubyaSTI]

Don't be discouraged with your score. I scored a 77 back on the 04 test. I had pretty much written it off thinking I had no shot. About 3 1/2 years later I got a letter in the mail calling me to process. I went through the entire process and have a shot at the next academy class. You never know!

[GeneralMelchid]

Dubya -Damn!, well your right always have faith or hope

[Jak_bot]

Don't be discouraged with your score. I scored a 77 back on the 04 test. I had pretty much written it off thinking I had no shot. About 3 1/2 years later I got a letter in the mail calling me to process. I went through the entire process and have a shot at the next academy class. You never know!


How far did they go down on the list from the 04 exam?

[BigWill2876]

IIRC they went into high 10,000 to 11,000 from the prior test. But that is just numbers from the Internet.

[GeneralMelchid]

Im in the high 10,000 im like 10,628 i think i gotta check later

[BigWill2876]

Gen,

Sounds like you got a 'law school grade', means you can go take the law boards, sign up at a law school, and graduate from law school and then wait for the call... or.....past posts have indicated that a decent percentage of Academy recruits are from other law enforcement agencies that have always wanted NYSP and are willing to leave their previous LE job for 6 months in Albany.

[ArmySean]

welll i have a masters in crj with 3.9 gpa and failed the state police

i got 100 on the test and have no college

[NYnoMORE]

Does anyone know what number they are up to?

[DubyaSTI]

Off the current list they are around 1200 which is one round of processing.

[GeneralMelchid]

Armysean, you bastard!, correction just went on the site, I got a 82.14 and list number of 10,759. oh happy happy joy joy

[Waterpistola]

about your scores guys, it just goes to show you that they are looking for street smarts (army) rather than book smarts (CJ masters, 3.9GPA)

also general, how was the RISP exam? I didn't even waste my money or time but I heard it was intense

[NyCborn]

How soon do you guys think they will reach list number 2070? :confused:

[GeneralMelchid]

Waterpistola, have i got a story for you, alright, i arrive there at 6:30, they told us to be there at 7:00 sharp at Knight Campus, University of Rhode Island, in Warwick. I drive into the parking lot where other cars are already lined up, have to get out stand in front of car, Then they tell us at 7:00 sharp to run over and get into platon formation and standing at attention. With this they go down the line, yelling at everybody and anything. Me they singled out becase i didn't have parts of my head shaven and also because i had a moustache and "billygoat" under my chin. Although i did have one trooper look at me staring, because i ddin't blink for 5 minutes each time. Probably thought i had the thousand yard star. Anyway during the whole thing i got the nickname"Rockefellar". While out there another few guys got alot of attention and i mean more like yelling toi the extreme. Several troopers yelled at a guy dressed up like a pimp and missing socks, another guy without a suit, just casual clothes, and a guy with long hair and earings. After spending an hour and a half out in the parking lot saying sir yes sir, maam no maam and me getting called cute by a female state trooper, we ran or jogged into the building, yelling back at the troopers "SIR YES SIR",To the point i became hoarse. Had to line up, they seperated us into different groups by first letter of last name, and had to sweat it until you got up to the counter where a trooper was sitting signing you in. Whats funny is there was a guy who was late, so they yelled at him, 3 troopers did, in his face, and told him to say "I am Batman, sorry everybody i am late, 'Say it F*&king again, I AM BATMAN". Also somebody didn't hear NEXT, and a big trooper got realy ticked and started saying NEXT NEXT AND began to pound his fists on the table until the guy realised, Oh he means me. Then we finally took the test around 9:30-9:50am. Didn't finish till 11:54. Got to see the Superintendent Brenden Doherty. All in all it was one hell of an experience, I stupidly got lost in providence, the bad parts,the night before looking for my hotel, only got 5 hours of sleep after i finally found the hotel.

[GeneralMelchid]

Waterpistola- I got a notice saying i should report to the same place where we originally took the test, in warwick, for the physical, but i never went, had a change of heart. Really it wasn't the whole military times 2 thing, it was relocating to Rhode Island, Small state, not alot to do, And there are only 218 troopers, which i found out after taking the test. Oh and that even if you get in and pass the academy, no promises on them hiring you, you could be a reserve trooper for up to a year before actually becoming a trooper. Oh when i went to the University of Rhode Island in Warwick on August 23rd, for the test, maybe 200-250 showed up for 35 slots within the state police. And the period to fill for the thing was only one month.

Anyway the whole thing was like this--

http://com222.whetstone.net/images/bootcamp.jpg

[GrayState]

about your scores guys, it just goes to show you that they are looking for street smarts (army) rather than book smarts (CJ masters, 3.9GPA)

also general, how was the RISP exam? I didn't even waste my money or time but I heard it was intense

The whole "book smarts" versus "street smarts" debate is b*llsh*t. They are looking for people with good character/integrity and reliable/dependable workers. I've said it several times on here already... the initial exam is just the gateway, and some people just have to wait a bit longer to go through. Being in the army or having a 4.0 doesn't mean jack if you scr*wed a bunch of hookers in college or overseas in the armed forces. I have an associate's, bachelor's, and master's all in different fields with a 3.9 GPA and I made it on the job. There are plenty of other people like me and there are plenty of people that did time in the armed forces and good troopers can be made from either.

[GeneralMelchid]

Gray from what i can see, and your screen name, Your a New York Trooper Right? Just confirming

[GrayState]

Right, for about two and a half years now. Not too long, but it seems like even less than that.

[GeneralMelchid]

gray, i would of thought that you would have said "but it feels more like that", since being out on the road all day. What Troop are you in G, A?

[GrayPatriot]

The whole "book smarts" versus "street smarts" debate is b*llsh*t. They are looking for people with good character/integrity and reliable/dependable workers. I've said it several times on here already... the initial exam is just the gateway, and some people just have to wait a bit longer to go through. Being in the army or having a 4.0 doesn't mean jack if you scr*wed a bunch of hookers in college or overseas in the armed forces. I have an associate's, bachelor's, and master's all in different fields with a 3.9 GPA and I made it on the job. There are plenty of other people like me and there are plenty of people that did time in the armed forces and good troopers can be made from either.

I might add...

Don't get me wrong I am knocking high GPAs in CJ. I have a double major in Computer Science and CJ and I am a few classes shy of my Masters in IT. I didn't do anything for my CJ classes and I would get an A. I would spend 20 hours a week on Calc II and get a B. Tell me you have a 3.9 in Physics and I will be impressed!!!

Also, like I have stated in that short NYSP thread in my quad during the academy we had a Physcians Assistant (prior MIlitary too), a Marine Capt (RIP Capt McKenna), a guy with a Masters (The only non prior military), a Physical Therapist (Prior Air Force), 2 Marines and moi. Everyone had at least a BA...


GenlMelChid:
The NJSP was like that too which is kinda silly really. The NYSP doesn't start the yelling until they are paying you -- In the academy!

[GeneralMelchid]

Gray, yeah i Know, I know a guy i took the Delaware State Police test with, He tried out for the NJSP, those guys do the physical first, and he said oh was it militaristic. And when i took the NYSP test, the only thing that was militaristic was that they got ticked a little and told us to get into a line and yell a said number off, which was the amount of people they were letting into a gym for the test in the Harlem Armory.

[GeneralMelchid]

Gray, you former military?

[GrayState]

gray, i would of thought that you would have said "but it feels more like that", since being out on the road all day. What Troop are you in G, A?

It does feel like more than that at times, such as the times when you are in the same trailer for the fifth time in as many weeks and everyone in it is extremely drunk every single time, and no matter how many times you arrest or lecture them, it doesn't matter... uhg.

edit: I think I used the word time too many times.

[nycop]

It does feel like more than that at times, such as the times when you are in the same trailer for the fifth time in as many weeks and everyone in it is extremely drunk every single time, and no matter how many times you arrest or lecture them, it doesn't matter... uhg.

edit: I think I used the word time too many times.


Sounds like Troop C.

[SlowDownThere]

Also, like I have stated in that short NYSP thread in my quad during the academy we had a Physcians Assistant (prior MIlitary too), a Marine Capt (RIP Capt McKenna), a guy with a Masters (The only non prior military), a Physical Therapist (Prior Air Force), 2 Marines and moi. Everyone had at least a BA...




That's 7 people in a quad, which is made for 4 people.
That sucks. In my class we actually had 4 per quad.

[SlowDownThere]

I might add...

GenlMelChid:
The NJSP was like that too which is kinda silly really. The NYSP doesn't start the yelling until they are paying you -- In the academy!

And I might add....

We don't stop yelling until you retire. ;)

[BigWill2876]

Dad is ex-NJSP likes to tell the story of his first day in NJSP Academy.
Ex-USMC DI stands up on stage and says, "Look to your right, look to your left, remember those faces. If either one of them is here at graduation day, you won't be !"
He says 5 guys raised their hand after the speech and resigned on the spot.
He was correct, 54 graduated of 155. As stated, "lots of yelling."
But as Dad says, that was before they lowered the standards to allow women to be able to pass. Only one woman was able to pass the old standards and they were under a Federal agreement to add women and minorities. (lowered the height from 5-8 was one thing, changed the boxing program was another, changed the timed 5 mile run another, changed the push up form, etc.). Now they only lose about 25 %.

Women here DON"T KILL THE TYPIST here.

[Up_On_Base]

The whole "book smarts" versus "street smarts" debate is b*llsh*t. They are looking for people with good character/integrity and reliable/dependable workers. I've said it several times on here already... the initial exam is just the gateway, and some people just have to wait a bit longer to go through. Being in the army or having a 4.0 doesn't mean jack if you scr*wed a bunch of hookers in college or overseas in the armed forces. I have an associate's, bachelor's, and master's all in different fields with a 3.9 GPA and I made it on the job. There are plenty of other people like me and there are plenty of people that did time in the armed forces and good troopers can be made from either.

+1 w/ Gray State

LE is about a few things: Good decisions, being firm/fair, common sense, good judgement, and being in good shape for the inevitable bad situation.

I was an average college student, was more concerned about chasing tail and beer. Got picked up by the USSS, in 27 weeks of training with about 15 tests, I graduated w/ 96 average. Why...because I was interested in what was being taught.

I know 2 guys w/ multiple degrees (BS/MBA/JD) and one has great common sense and drive, the other is an idiot.

LE is so unique, you will be forced to think on the fly daily and be put in dynamic situations...therefore you need to be sharp and flexable, it's not a job to dumb meatheads or smart pencil pushers...need to be a combo...IMO

[GrayPatriot]

That's 7 people in a quad, which is made for 4 people.
That sucks. In my class we actually had 4 per quad.

There was 6 in our Quads with all the room changes I got a bit confused... :p

Some of the last few classes had 8 in a quad. We had 4 to being with but after the first room change and from then on it was 6.

[NyCborn]

How soon do you guys think they will reach list number 2070?? I know This is my second time asking

[GeneralMelchid]

I'm against lowering of the standards even though i would probably be effected by it, no i aint a women, much taller than 5"8, but i like the donuts. Also statistically, women and minorities are still not that well represented on state police forces. Hell, out of 218 people for Rhode Island State Police, 15 are Minorities and Women, and i think i saw about 75% of them for the exam.

[BigWill2876]

"THE WAIT":

Just based on the info found on this and other sites it would appear that numbers in the 2,000 area would likely to be called within a year.

That could change based on several things;
1. NY State budget mess.
a. How many classes/openings will be budgeted.
2. NYSP new contract.
a. How many Troopers/higher ranks will retire above the normal rates.
3. Basic size number of the next two classes.
a. Will a rate of 10 to 1 continue to be the # to find someone hireable.

But you should be called reasonably soon, as you don't have a "law school score".
Good hunting...

[NyCborn]

I was just wondering if anyone could give me some insight on how strict the NYSP are on color vision. What tests do they give? and do you have to go to one of their doctors or your own.

[cadetlinux]

They test your color blindness with that the numbers test on processing weekend. It isn't done by a doctor, but a trooper with a vision machine...

[patiently w8ing]

They test your color blindness with that the numbers test on processing weekend. It isn't done by a doctor, but a trooper with a vision machine...

cadetlinux, did they also test your visual acuity on processing weekend? If so, how did they test it?

[cadetlinux]

Yes they did and it was with the same machine they test color blindness with. It's just a little machine that sits on top of a desk that you look into. You'll see a set of railroad tracks with signs and you have to identify the position of a circle inside a square.

[patiently w8ing]

Bump......

[SlowDownThere]

[QUOTE=BigWill2876;14355622. NYSP new contract.
a. How many Troopers/higher ranks will retire above the normal rates.
[/QUOTE]

There is a new IRS rule, set to take effect June 30, 2010, that will make a lot of us retire priior to that date.

I'll do a search and post something about it. But basically, it will eliminate 20 year retirement if it results in full retirement prior to age 55.

http://www.napo.org/legislative-update/IRS_Regulations_Information08.htm

[cadetlinux]

well....let's hope that doesn't happen, it would take away one of the biggest benefits of the NYSP...a 20 year retirement is a huge WOW factor.

[gbotj]

Thats a huge benefit not only for NYSP but for every LE agency. Most are 20 & out, 25 & out, 20/50 etc. And what would this accomplish? If a cop is hired at 21 years old, and is forced to work to 55 he would have a retirement based on 34 years of service. Thats alot more money.

[cadetlinux]

A lot more money.... perhaps, but 14 years more of a high stress job. There is a reason the life span of an LEO is shorter than average.

[SlowDownThere]

If you read the whole article from the National Association of Police Organizations, it looks like we have Congress on our side. Even the cities/states that are paying for the pensions are opposed to the new IRS rule.

I can only imagine the number of lawsuits if the IRS tries to overturn thousands of seperate collective bargaining agreements and contractual benefits packages negotiated by thousands of agencies across the country.

It seems to me that something of this magnitude ought to be left to Congress, and not an unelected bureaucrat. The implications are just too sweeping.